274–44

Conversation No. 274-44

Date: September 8, 1971
Time: 3:26 pm - 5:10 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.

Busing
-John N. Mitchell
-Edward L. Morgan
-Austin case
-Possible meeting with Ehrlichman

Anti-trust
-Richard W. McLaren
-Airlines
-Possible resignation
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Ralph Nader
-Position
-American Bar Association [ABA]
-Replacement
-Anti-trust issues
-Forthcoming study
-Webb-Pomerene Act
-Anti-trust of Department of Justice [DOJ]
-Webb-Pomerene
-Cartels
-Peter G. Peterson
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-Replacement
-Mitchell


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Busing
-Mitchell
-President’s objectives compared with DOJ’s
-Austin case
-Appeal
-Mexican-American schools
-De jure segregation
-Morgan
-Possible political impact
-National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
[NAACP]
-Civil rights cases
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW] and DOJ
-DOJ
-David L. Norman
-Jerris Leonard
-Morgan’s view
-Regional director of HEW a Justice Department lawyer
-Choice
-Brief
-Press
-Circuit Court ruling
-Supreme Court
-Morgan
-Edmund S. Muskie
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-Haldeman
-Letters
-Prince George's County, Maryland
-Jim Naughton article in New York Times
-The South
-Federal money
-Amendment
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-George P. Shultz
-Austin
-Mitchell
-Procedures
-Possible meeting with the President
-Mitchell and Ehrlichman

Airlines
-Haldeman

Office of Intergovernmental Relations
-Ehrlichman's talks with Spiro T. Agnew
-Director
-Agnew
-Relationship with Democratic governors
-Unknown people

Agnew
-Senate
-National Security Council [NSC]
-Concern
-Staying informed
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Compared with John B. Connally
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-Connally
-State Department
-Vice President
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Portfolio
-Senate
-Constitutional duty


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-Princeton University student body president
-Letter
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-Campus residence
-Yale University
-Connally
-Personality
-Bearing
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-Possible residency
-Events
-Preference


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Appointment
-Phillip V. Sanchez
-Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
-Background
-Fresno

Support for the President
-Sanchez
-Thomas W. Fletcher, Sr.
-Sidney P. Marland, Jr.
-Commissioner of Education
-Busing
-Warren E. Burger
-Marland
-Relationship between busing and education
-Letter from the President
-Sanchez
-Letter from the President
-Marland
-James E. Allen, Jr.
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Austin busing issue
-Mitchell
-Justice Department lawyers
Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-J. Edgar Hoover
-Retirement
-Ehrlichman's call to Haldeman
-Mitchell
-Delay
-Consequence
-Age
-Patrick L. Gray, III
-Mitchell
-Meeting with the President
-Possible position
-Consultant
-William C. Sullivan
-Dinner
-Medal of Freedom

House Resolution [H. R.] 2
-Congressional questions
-President's conversation with F. Edward Hébert
-Melvin R. Laird
-Meeting with Gerald R. Ford and Hébert
-Pentagon Papers
-Call from the President
-Hébert request
-HEW
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB]
-Ehrlichman's talk with Laird

Legislation
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Talks with Ehrlichman
-President’s forthcoming speech to Congress
-Revenue sharing, H.R. 1
-Richard P. Nathan
-OMB
-HEW
-New position
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-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
-Announcement
-Agenda
-Russell B. Long
-Senate Finance Committee
-HEW
-H R 1

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 3:26..

Refreshments

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 5:10 pm.

H.R. 1
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Speech
-Nathan (\"Nick\") K. Kotz
-Washington Post
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
-Talk with Ehrlichman
-Revenue sharing
-Congress
-Meeting with Long
-Richardson
-Mills
-Welfare action
-Hearings
-Richardson's memo

Busing
-San Francisco
-Michigan
-Burger
-George C. Wallace
-President’s position
-Wallace
-Bureaucrats
-Executive branch action
-Burger
-Courts
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-Judges
-Democrats
-Courts
-Hugo Black
-William O. Douglas
-Election
-Supreme Court
-Justices’ deaths
-Thurgood Marshall
-John M. Harlan
-Morgan
-Mitchell
-Future
-Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh
-Narcotics assignment
-Daniel Ellsberg
-Declassification
-Meeting with Ehrlichman

Ehrlichman's schedule
-General Counsel from the Department of Defense [J. Fred Buzhardt]
-Robert C. Mardian
-Unknown man from the State Department
-Krogh
-David R. Young, Jr.

Pentagon Papers
-Ellsberg
-Changes
-New York Times
-Leslie H. Gelb
-Brookings Institution
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Morton H. Halperin
-FBI
-Department of Defense investigators
-New York Times
-Gelb
-Brookings Institution
-Gordon Gray
-Executive committee
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-Krogh
-Young
-Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board [FIAB] meeting
-Los Angeles
-Investigation
-Activities
-Columnists
-Jerald terHorst
-Conspiracy information
-Ellsberg lawyer
-Bay of Pigs
-terHorst
-Bay of Pigs documents
-Richard M. Helms
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] resistance
-Allen W. Dulles
-Knowledge
-Reasons for CIA resistance
-Ellsberg group’s knowledge
-Ngo Dinh Diem assassination
-Release of information
-Timing
-Vietnam elections

Camp Pendleton Beach
-Execution of lease
-Story release
-Nixon Foundation land
-Legal opinion
-Legislation
-House
-Armed Services Committee
-F. Edward Hébert
-Land
-Timing


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-Edward C. Nixon
-Securities and Exchange Commission [SEC]
-Herbert W. Kalmbach
-J. William Middendorf, II
-Netherlands


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Press
-Los Angeles Times story
-Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
-Newsday story
-Possible questions
-Possible administration response
-John W. Dean, III's associate
-Rebozo
-Rebozo and George A. Smathers
-The President
-Interests
-Small Business Administration [SBA]
-Fisher’s Island stock
-Smathers
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-Bay Lane house
-Ehrlichman’s advice
-Fisher's Island
-Rebozo
-Stock value
-Smathers
-Government
-Fisher's Island
-Key Biscayne
-Coco Lobo
-Edward O. Sullivan, III case
-Smathers and Rebozo
-Los Angeles Times story
-Investigation
-William Moyers
-Phillip Edward Gutman [?]
-Carl Greenberg
-Managing editor
-Rebozo
-White House action
-Rebozo
-Smathers
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Robert D. (“Bobby”) Baker
-Fisher's Island
-Newsday story
-Possible administration response
-President’s costs
-Law firm
-Fisher's Island
-Stocks
-New York apartment
-Law firm
-Haldeman


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Press inquiries
-San Clemente
-Kalmbach
-Title
-Title Insurance Trust Bank
-Rocco C. Siciliano
-Press inquiries
-Rebozo
-Partnership
-Response to press inquiries
-Ownership
-House and immediate grounds
-Trusts
-Ehrlichman’s comments to press
-Foundation
-Golf
-Orange County, California
-Foundation
-Possible responses
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Dean
-Value
-Rebozo
-Robert H. Abplanalp
-Disclosure of information
-Ziegler
-Johnson residence
-Dwight D. Eisenhower residence
-Possible approach to Congress
-Hébert
-Abplanalp
-Rebozo
-Uses for land
-Foundation
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-Houses
-Kalmbach
-[Forename unknown] Almore
-Tenancy
-Foundation
-Hotel
-San Clemente
-Golf course
-Profit
-Investment
-Government
-Question
-Johnson
-Development
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Property question
-Tax shelter
-Dean
-Announcement
-Foundation site
-Irvine and Whittier Colleges
-Speculation
-The President’s view
-Responses
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-John F. Kennedy
-Key Biscayne
-Rebozo
-Press inquiries
-Smathers
-Divorce
-Rebozo
-Fisher Island
-Profit
-Additions
-Stock
-Press inquiries
-Trustee
-Interest
-Purchases
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-Press inquiries
-The President’s response
-Rebozo
-Smathers
-Divorce
-Public records
-Sons
-Property settlement
-Bay Lane property
-Government leasing
-Abplanalp
-Secret Service
-White House Communications Agency [WHCA]
-Johnson experience
-Helicopter pad
-Hannah Nixon's house
-Worth
-The President’s worth
-Effect of government service
-California
-San Clemente
-Value
-Sullivan case
-Theodore Roosevelt
-Libel
-Fisher Island
-Stockholders option
-Rebozo

Contributors
-White House investigation
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Internal Revenue Service [IRS] past investigations
-Abplanalp
-Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
-John Wayne
-Paul Keyes
-Barry M. Goldwater
-New IRS Commissioner
-Audits
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-IRS
-The President
-1962 taxes
-John N. Mitchell
-IRS
-Muskie
-Humphrey
-Investigations
-Edward M. Kennedy
-Pakistan
-Investigation
-Hawaii
-Convention
-Hawaii
-Hyannis
-Muskie
-Lifestyle
-Family
-Kennedy
-Chappaquiddick
-Use of
-Divorce
-Nelson A. Rockefeller's divorce
-Nicholas P. Thimmesch


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Ehrlichman left at 5:10 pm.
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