363–16

Conversation No. 363-16

Date: August 8, 1972
Time: 4:11 pm - 4:54 pm
Location: Executive Office Building

The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.

Greetings

1972 election
-George S. McGovern
-Letter
-Briefings on foreign policy
-Paul Warnke
-Kissinger’s possible participation
-Richard M. Helms
-Vietnam negotiations
-As a campaign issue

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 4:11 pm.

Refreshments

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 4:47 pm.

1972 election
-Kissinger's role
-Fundraising
-Vietnam
-Kissinger's schedule
-Forthcoming trip to Moscow

An unknown person entered and left at an unknown time between 4:11 pm and 4:47 pm.

-Possible foreign policy briefings for McGovern
-Compared with Lyndon B. Johnson's briefings for Barry
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Tape Subject Log
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M. Goldwater
-Administration’s reaction to McGovern's letter
-Possible writer
-H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Kissinger
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Haldeman
-Possible briefing for Warnke
-Security clearances
-Haig
-Helms
-Warnke
-Kissinger’s view
-Pentagon Papers
-Daniel Ellsberg
-Clark M. Clifford
-Administration’s possible reaction
-McGovern's letter
-Kissinger’s reading of text
-Warnke
-Haig
-Administration response to McGovern's letter
-Possible writer
-Kissinger
-Haig
-Haldeman
-Alexander P. Butterfield
-Haldeman
-Offer of briefings
-Warnke
-Haig
-Helms
-Warnke
-Location
-Haig
-Kissinger
-Warnke
-Haig
-Helms
-State and Defense Departments
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Tape Subject Log
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-McGovern
-Speeches on Vietnam negotiations
-Impact on negotiations
-Publication of records of negotiations

The President's meeting with Republican leaders
-Butterfield
-Foreign policy subjects
-Kissinger’s representative
-Presence
-End-the-war resolution in House of Representatives
-The President's possible calls to House members
-Gerald R. Ford
-Advisability
-William E. Timmons
-Camp David
-Richard K. Cook
-Kissinger's actions
-Senate

Kissinger’s forthcoming telephone conversation with Cook

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 4:11 pm and
4:47 pm.

[Conversation No. 363-16A]

[See Conversation No. 29-56]

[End of telephone conversation]

Antiwar Republicans
-House
-Number
-Senate
-Goldwater's evaluation
-Republican National Convention
-Edward W. Brooke
-Kissinger's meeting at Jacob K. Javits's house
-Warren Avis
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Tape Subject Log
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-Hugh Scott

Kissinger talked with Cook at an unknown time between 4:11 pm and 4:47 pm.

[Conversation No. 363-16B]

[See Conversation No. 29-57]

[End of telephone conversation]

The President’s possible telephone calls
-Cook’s view
-Charles McC. Mathias, Jr.
-Meetings with the President
-Ford
-Senate

Vietnam negotiations
-Status
-Ellsworth F. Bunker
-North Vietnamese proposal


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Vietnam
-Effect of 1972 election
-Possible bombing halt
-Value
-Effect on 1968 election
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Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)

-Possible effect on 1972 election
-Extent of bombing halt
-Negotiations
-Justification
-Populated areas
-20th parallel
-Mining
-Negotiations
-McGovern
-Record
-Effect of 1972 election
-Casualties
-Air war
-Record
-McGovern
-Possible television appearance by Kissinger
-Effect

Kissinger's talk with young people
-State Department
-Interns
-Questions
-Opposition to the President's policies
-Kissinger's statements
-US interests abroad
-Communist rule in other nations
-Kissinger's visit to Europe in 1968
-Prague
-Paris
-Student revolt
-Gen. Charles A.J.M. DeGaulle
-Students’ view of establishment
-Prague
-Czech view of Leninist doctrine
-Response by audience
-Questions on Vietnam
-Kissinger's answer
-Possible US withdrawal from South Vietnam
-The President's policy in Vietnam
-The President's principles
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-Audience response to Kissinger's answers
-The President's Vietnam policies
-Compared with situation in 1968
-Questions on the People's Republic of China [PRC] and the Soviet Union
-Kissinger's answers
-US policy toward the Soviet Union
-Kissinger’s unknown assistant

An unknown man entered at an unknown time after 4:11 pm.

The President's schedule
-Meeting with [Boris V. Petrovsky]

The unknown man left at an unknown time before 4:47 p.m.

Kissinger's schedule
-Camp David
-Return of telephone call

The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 4:11 pm and
4:47 pm.

[Conversation No. 363-16C]

[See Conversation No. 29-58]

[End of telephone conversation]

Kissinger's schedule

The President's schedule

The President talked with Stephen B. Bull between 4:47 pm and 4:48 pm.

[Conversation No. 363-16D]

[See Conversation No. 29-59; one item has been withdrawn]

[End of telephone conversation]
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Tape Subject Log
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Possible foreign policy briefings for McGovern
-Possible briefing by Kissinger
-Warnke
-The President’s instruction
-Security clearance
-Clifford
-Haig

Kissinger's appearance with student group
-PRC and Soviet Union topics
-Audience response


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Republicans
-Doves
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)

-Javits
-Administration's Vietnam policy
-The President’s November 3, 1969 speech
-Cambodian incursion
-Laos
-The President’s May 8, 1972 decision

Effect of 1972 election
-State Department
-Defense Department
-Central Intelligence Agency [CIA]
-Mathias
-McGovern

The President's meeting with Petrovsky
-Time
-Substance
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Cooperation

Kissinger's schedule
-Camp David

Kissinger left at 4:54 pm.