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487–19
- President Richard M. Nixon
- H. R. Haldeman
- White House operator
- Herbert R. "Chief" Rainwater
April 23, 1971
Conversation No. 487-19
Date: April 23, 1971
Time: 1:17 pm - 1:51 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
Haldeman's conversation with William P. Rogers
-Rogers' press conference
-President's People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative
-Vietnam
-Press reaction
-John A. Volpe
-Possible ambassadorship to Italy
-Roger’s view
-Henry A. Kissinger’s view
-Haldeman’s response
-Forthcoming Italian election
-Clifford M. Hardin
-Purdue Presidency
-Rogers' possible conversation with John C. Whitaker
-Hardin's conversation with Rogers
-Possible attacks
-Rogers' possible conversation with Hardin
-President's possible position
Refreshments
Haldeman’s conversation with Rogers
-PRC initiative
-Press release
-United Nations staff [UN]
-Reorganization
-George H.W. Bush
-Symbolism
-Bush
-Rogers
Haldeman's conversation with John B. Connally
-Turkey
-Drug interdiction
59
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan’s plan
-Control
-Acreage
Youth Conference
-Motion
-Capitalist system
-Task forces Conv. No. 487-19 (cont.)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 1m 3s ]
GREAT BRITAIN
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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Volpe
-Reassignment
The White House operator talked with the President at an unknown time between 1:14 pm and
1:32 pm.
[Conversation No. 487-19A ]
[See Conversation No. 2-36 ]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Ambassador
-Italy
60
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
[Transcript #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
PRC initiative Conv. No. 487-19 (cont.)
-Intellectuals
-Congress
Welfare mothers
-William L. Safire's view
-Work
-Votes for President
Polls
-PRC initiative
-Administration constiuency
-President's position
-Distribution
-Kissinger
-John A. Scali
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Soviet Union
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Possible effects
-PRC
-Ping-pong team
-President's stance
Media
-Television
Vietnam
-Issue
-Administration support
-Effect of mass media
-Demonstrations
-President's television appearances
-Polls
61
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
Polls
-Vietnam
-Approval and disapproval rating
-Lieutenant William L. Calley, Jr.
-Approval and disapproval rating
-Shift
-President's speech, April 7, 1971 Conv. No. 487-19 (cont.)
-President's performance
-Percentages
-Economy
-PRC
-Vietnam
[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
-Louis Harris poll
-Charles W. Colson
-Figures
-Approval and disapproval rating
-Figures
[Transcript #3: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
-Vietnam
-Percentages
-Possible administration initiatives
-Possible effect
-Administration efforts
-Connally's view
-Laos operation (Lam Son)
-Effect
62
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Press coverage
-Calley
-Administration actions
-President's speech, April 7, 1971
-Approval and disapproval rating
-Laos operation (Lam Son)
-Effect
-Vietnam Conv. No. 487-19 (cont.)
-Significance
-Negative impact
-Cambodia
-Approval and disapproval rating
-Erosion of Administration support
-President's speeches
-Press conferences
-Possible effects
-Disapproval rating
-November 1970-January 1971
-Percentages
The President talked with Herbert R. Rainwater between 1:32 pm and 1:37 pm.
[Conversation No. 487-19B]
[See Conversation No. 2-37]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Public relations approach
-Cabinet
-Administration spokesmen and surrogate speakers
-Revenue sharing
-President’s policies
-Success
-Media
-Possible administration initiatives
-Cabinet
-Media
-Effect
-Vietnam
-Cabinet
-Approval and disapproval rating
63
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Percentages
-Effect of events
-Public relations efforts
-Calley
-Effect on polls
-Haldeman’s view
-Peace
-Economy Conv. No. 487-19 (cont.)
-Connally's views
-Need for optimism
-Economy
-Consumer attitudes
[Transcript #4: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 28s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
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Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
-Television appearance, April 22, 1971
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Compared with President’s television appearances
-Differences
-Effect
Television ratings
-Numbers
64
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Administration standing
-Philip A. Hart and Margaret Chase Smith
-Equal time
-American Broadcasting Corporation [ABC]
-Time
The President's schedule
-Press conference Conv. No. 487-19 (cont.)
-Press
-Press conference
-Administration strategy
-Subjects
-Advantages for President
-Tony Ramsey
-President's meeting with editors
-Timing
-Advantages for President
[Transcript #5: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
-Supreme Court decision on school desegregation
Supreme Court decision on school desegregation
-Effect on administration
-Raymond K. Price, Jr. analysis
-Effect on administration
-Price's view
-De jure desegregation
-Racial balance
-Exceptions
-Review
Polls
-Results
65
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
[Transcript #6: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
-PRC initiative Conv. No. 487-19 (cont.)
The President and Haldeman left at 1:51 pm.
Date: April 23, 1971
Time: 1:17 pm - 1:51 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
Haldeman's conversation with William P. Rogers
-Rogers' press conference
-President's People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative
-Vietnam
-Press reaction
-John A. Volpe
-Possible ambassadorship to Italy
-Roger’s view
-Henry A. Kissinger’s view
-Haldeman’s response
-Forthcoming Italian election
-Clifford M. Hardin
-Purdue Presidency
-Rogers' possible conversation with John C. Whitaker
-Hardin's conversation with Rogers
-Possible attacks
-Rogers' possible conversation with Hardin
-President's possible position
Refreshments
Haldeman’s conversation with Rogers
-PRC initiative
-Press release
-United Nations staff [UN]
-Reorganization
-George H.W. Bush
-Symbolism
-Bush
-Rogers
Haldeman's conversation with John B. Connally
-Turkey
-Drug interdiction
59
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan’s plan
-Control
-Acreage
Youth Conference
-Motion
-Capitalist system
-Task forces Conv. No. 487-19 (cont.)
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[National Security]
[Duration: 1m 3s ]
GREAT BRITAIN
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
**********************************************************************
Volpe
-Reassignment
The White House operator talked with the President at an unknown time between 1:14 pm and
1:32 pm.
[Conversation No. 487-19A ]
[See Conversation No. 2-36 ]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Ambassador
-Italy
60
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
[Transcript #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
PRC initiative Conv. No. 487-19 (cont.)
-Intellectuals
-Congress
Welfare mothers
-William L. Safire's view
-Work
-Votes for President
Polls
-PRC initiative
-Administration constiuency
-President's position
-Distribution
-Kissinger
-John A. Scali
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Soviet Union
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-Possible effects
-PRC
-Ping-pong team
-President's stance
Media
-Television
Vietnam
-Issue
-Administration support
-Effect of mass media
-Demonstrations
-President's television appearances
-Polls
61
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
Polls
-Vietnam
-Approval and disapproval rating
-Lieutenant William L. Calley, Jr.
-Approval and disapproval rating
-Shift
-President's speech, April 7, 1971 Conv. No. 487-19 (cont.)
-President's performance
-Percentages
-Economy
-PRC
-Vietnam
[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
-Louis Harris poll
-Charles W. Colson
-Figures
-Approval and disapproval rating
-Figures
[Transcript #3: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
-Vietnam
-Percentages
-Possible administration initiatives
-Possible effect
-Administration efforts
-Connally's view
-Laos operation (Lam Son)
-Effect
62
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Press coverage
-Calley
-Administration actions
-President's speech, April 7, 1971
-Approval and disapproval rating
-Laos operation (Lam Son)
-Effect
-Vietnam Conv. No. 487-19 (cont.)
-Significance
-Negative impact
-Cambodia
-Approval and disapproval rating
-Erosion of Administration support
-President's speeches
-Press conferences
-Possible effects
-Disapproval rating
-November 1970-January 1971
-Percentages
The President talked with Herbert R. Rainwater between 1:32 pm and 1:37 pm.
[Conversation No. 487-19B]
[See Conversation No. 2-37]
[End of telephone conversation]
-Public relations approach
-Cabinet
-Administration spokesmen and surrogate speakers
-Revenue sharing
-President’s policies
-Success
-Media
-Possible administration initiatives
-Cabinet
-Media
-Effect
-Vietnam
-Cabinet
-Approval and disapproval rating
63
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Percentages
-Effect of events
-Public relations efforts
-Calley
-Effect on polls
-Haldeman’s view
-Peace
-Economy Conv. No. 487-19 (cont.)
-Connally's views
-Need for optimism
-Economy
-Consumer attitudes
[Transcript #4: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
**********************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
[Personal Returnable]
[Duration: 28s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 7
**********************************************************************
Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
-Television appearance, April 22, 1971
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Compared with President’s television appearances
-Differences
-Effect
Television ratings
-Numbers
64
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
-Administration standing
-Philip A. Hart and Margaret Chase Smith
-Equal time
-American Broadcasting Corporation [ABC]
-Time
The President's schedule
-Press conference Conv. No. 487-19 (cont.)
-Press
-Press conference
-Administration strategy
-Subjects
-Advantages for President
-Tony Ramsey
-President's meeting with editors
-Timing
-Advantages for President
[Transcript #5: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
-Supreme Court decision on school desegregation
Supreme Court decision on school desegregation
-Effect on administration
-Raymond K. Price, Jr. analysis
-Effect on administration
-Price's view
-De jure desegregation
-Racial balance
-Exceptions
-Review
Polls
-Results
65
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 9/08)
[Transcript #6: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]
[End of transcript]
-PRC initiative Conv. No. 487-19 (cont.)
The President and Haldeman left at 1:51 pm.