490–22

Conversation No. 490-22

Date: May 4, 1971
Time: 2:14 pm - 3:06 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler. Conv. No. 490-20 (cont.)

[Transcript #1: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

Lockheed
-Congressional leadership
-Statements to the Press

Vietnam
-Prisoner of War [POWs]
-Sweden
-Proposal
-Press story
-US response
-Paris
-International Red Cross
-Ziegler’s comments
-Return
-Sick and wounded
-Ziegler’s comments
-John A. Scali
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Gen. Daniel (“Chappie”) James, Jr.
-Press
-Pictures
-Television
-Cameras
-Scali
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-Defense Department
-Scenario
-Return of POWs
-Numbers
-Coverage

Press
-Claude Erwin [sp?] and Peter Lisagor Conv. No. 490-22 (cont.)
-News stories
-Camp Pendleton
-Press conference, April 29, 1971
-\"Salute to Agriculture\"
-POWs

President’s previous press conference
-Questions
-Domestic policy
-Lt. William L. Calley, Jr.
-Press

Political news stories
-Lockheed
-Administration position

Southern California Shipyard contracts
-Administration position

President's schedule, May 7, 1971
-\"Salute to Agriculture\"
-Clifford M. Hardin
-Speech

Public relations efforts
-Radio speech
-Event

Southern California Shipyard contracts
-News
-West coast
-John D. Ehrlichman

H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 2:30 pm.
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-Possible announcement
-Shipyard
-Union
-Copley newspapers

Media
-Newspapers Conv. No. 490-22 (cont.)
-Copley newspapers
-Hobart D. Lewis
-Santa Monica Outlook
-San Diego Union

[Transcript #2: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

Haldeman talked to an unknown person at an unknown time between 2:20 pm and 3:02 pm.

[Conversation No. 490-22A]

President's schedule
-Meeting with John N. Mitchell
-Reschedule

[End of telephone conversation]

Vietnam
-POW return
-Scali
-US position
-Publicity
-Press
-Television crews
-Scali
-Benefit to the Administration
-Ziegler
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Haldeman's previous conversation with William P. Rogers
-Rogers location
-Middle East
-Cairo
-Lebanon
-Rogers’ trip to the Vatican
-POWs
-Vietnam Conv. No. 490-22 (cont.)
-Rogers’ trip to Middle East
-Jordan
-[Hussein, King of Jordan] Hussein ibn Talal
-Lebanon
-Egypt
-Press coverage
-Israel
-Schedule
-Spain

Vietnam
-Dr. David K.E. Bruce
-Haig
-POW return
-International Red Cross

[Transcript #3: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

Southern California shipyard contracts
-Announcement event
-Publicity
-Los Angeles Times
-Erwin
-San Diego
-George Putnam
-Television
-Todd shipyards
-Long Beach
-San Diego
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-Publicity
-Senators
-John V. Tunney and Alan Cranston
-Lockheed
-Supersonic Transport [SST]
-Vote
-Pete Wilson
-Congressmen Conv. No. 490-22 (cont.)
-Senators
-Media
-Press
-Union representatives
-Navy
-Governor
-Corporate and union representatives
-White House
-Los Angeles Times and Hearst newspaper
-Copley newspaper
-Alan Lidow
-Cliff Evans
-Networks
-Metromedia
-Westinghouse
-RKO
-Golden Western
-Life

Possible press stories
-\"Salute to Agriculture\"
-School finance commission
-Rogers’ trip
-POW return

President’s schedule
-Meeting with President’s Commission on School Finance
-Neil H. McElroy
-Dr. Dorothy M. Ford
-Whittier, CA
-Discussion with the President
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Schools
-Teachers
-Funding
-Catholic
-Enrollment
-Ghetto children
-Benefits
-Nuns Conv. No. 490-22 (cont.)


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Vietnam
-POW return
-Scali
-Rogers
-State Department
-Scali
-Paul N. (“Pete”) McCloskey, Jr.
-Need for public relations Conv. No. 490-22 (cont.)
-Networks
-US policy
-Enemy POWs
-Publicity
-Television
-Public relations effort
-US return of North Vietnam prisoners
-Demilitarized zone [DMZ]
-Television

[Transcript #4: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]

Marijuana
-Legality
-President’s previous comments
-Penalty
-Use
-Smoking
-Haldeman's daughter
-Friend
-University of Southern California [USC]
-Haldeman’s comments
-Legalization
-Haldeman’s view
-Prison terms
-Unknown Texas man
-Unknown New Jersey youth
-Use
-Drug base
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[Transcript #5: A transcript of the following portion of this conversation was prepared under
court order from December 1978 through March 1979 for Special Access 8, Ronald V. Dellums,
et al. v. James M. Powell, et al., No. 71-2271. The National Archives and Records
Administration produced this transcript. The National Archives does not guarantee its accuracy.]

[End of transcript]
Conv. No. 490-22 (cont.)
Drugs
-Lysergic acid diethylamide [LSD]
-Use
-Unknown youth
-Stanford University
-Consequence of taking LSD
-Health
-Danger
-President's cousin
-Son
-Suicide
-Unknown youth
-Joke

Stephen B. Bull entered and Ziegler left at 3:02 pm.

President's schedule

Bull left at an unknown time before 3:06 pm

President’s schedule
-Upcoming meeting with Ehrlichman and George P. Shultz
-Henry A. Kissinger
-Participation
-Time
-Usefulness
-Pep talk
-Staff

President's call to William P. Macomber, Jr.
-Macomber's schedule
-Macomber comments
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Joseph J. Sisco
-Role
-Kissinger

Haldeman left at 3:06 pm.


Conv. No. 490-22 (cont.)