542–5

Conversation No. 542-5

Date: July 22, 1971
Time: 11:36 am - 12:28 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Donald H. Rumsfeld.

Foreign relations
-The US initiative regarding the People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Joyce P. Rumsfeld
-Robert H. Finch
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Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 11:36 am.
Refreshments

Sanchez left at an unknown time before 12:28 pm.

-The President's conversation with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Haldeman's daughter
-Henry A. Kissinger Conv. No. 542-4 (cont.)
-Compared to Glasboro Summit
-Appeal to youth
-Forward-looking action
-Glasboro Summit
-Kissinger
-Lyndon B. Johnson
-Polls
-Aleksei N. Kosygin
-Visits to the PRC by Democratic senators
-Haldeman’s concerns
-PRC’s response
-US public attitude
-Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy, Edmund S. Muskie, George S.
McGovern
-Chou En-lai
-Appeal to youth
-Vietnam war settlement
-Generation of peace
-The PRC’s future
-Youth’s understanding of PRC initiative
-US-PRC relations
-The President's Cabinet meeting
-Caution about speculation
-Rumsfeld
-National Press Club
-The President, William P. Rogers, Kissinger
-Effects of speculation
-Japan, India, Indonesia
-Vietnam War
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-Europeans
-Past leaders relations with the PRC
-Charles A.J.M de Gaulle, Winston S. Churchill, [James]
Harold Wilson, Konrad Adenauer
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-Length of Kissinger-Chou En-lai meetings
-The President's July 6, 1971 Kansas City speech
-Rumsfeld’s’ use at National Conference of Lieutenant Governors
-Audience reaction
-The administration's accomplishments
-Uplifting effect of international breakthrough
-National defense issue
-National priorities Conv. No. 542-5 (cont.)
-Effect on Democrats
-The peace issue

Democrats
-October 7, 1970 Vietnam speech by the President
-Effect on peace issue
-Democratic focus on the economy
-The Pentagon Papers case
-The Vietnam war
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Muskie 1968 speech
-John F. Kennedy
-Ngo Dinh Diem
-Focus of issues
-Settlement of war in near future
-Democrat’s responsibility for war
-World War I, World War II
-Korea, Vietnam
-Republican peace settlements
-Domestic issues
-The Nixon Doctrine
-Contrast with domestic philosophy
-Democratic mentality
-Humphrey
-Outlook
-Muskie
-Kennedy
-Ethics
-Women
-Need for propriety in public life
-Senators, Congressmen
-Foreign trips
-Drunkenness
-Public demeanor
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Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Socializing with his staff and Secret Service agents
-Secret Service
-Agnew's agents
-Actions
-Compared to the President's actions
-Secret Service, staff Conv. No. 542-5 (cont.)
-Rose Mary Woods
-Consideration compared to fraternization
-Alcohol
-The press
-Relations
-Midnight press interview
-Reasons
-PRC
-Comment about Blacks
-Need to keep distance from press
-Tendency to let down guard
-Comment about African leaders
-Sese Seko Mobutu
-Effect on voters
-Blacks
-Whites
-The President’s opinion of African leaders


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-Athletes
-Olympic competition
-Alcohol
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Conv. No. 542-5 (cont.)

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Rumsfeld
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] ambassador
-Possible post
-Office of Emergency Preparedness [OEP]


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-NATO post
-Robert F. Ellsworth
-Ambassadorship
-Compared to other ambassadorial post
-Federal Republic of Germany [FRG]
-Berlin
-USSR
-Japan
-Range of responsibilities
-Probable Senate confirmation
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-Rumsfeld's background
-Impact on Rumsfeld's position in Illinois
-Great Britain, France, FRG
-Italy
-Qualities required for Ambassador
-USSR
-Japan
-Cabinet and other government jobs Conv. No. 542-5 (cont.)
-Other Cabinet members
-Intention to remain in posts
-George W. Romney
-John A. Volpe
-OEP


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-Travels throughout country
-Speeches
-Property Review Board work
-Drug prevention
-Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
-Contact with John N. Mitchell
-Responsibilities
-New post
-Need for visibly substantive job
-Foreign policy
-OEP
-NATO
-Kissinger
-Mutual and Balanced Force Reductions [MBFR]
-US-USSR detente
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-Arms control
-Compared to Ellsworth's tenure
-Conference on European Security and Cooperation [CESC]
-Possible absence during forthcoming 1972 presidential campaign
-Latin American
-Lopez [Surname unknown] comments
-Possible role
-Rumsfeld’s conversation with Kissinger Conv. No. 542-5 (cont.)
-Possible position
-Roving ambassador position
-Southeast Asia, Africa, Latin America, Europe

The State Department
-Under Secretary of State
-John N. Irwin, II
-Rogers
-Possible position for Rumsfeld
-Special Trade Representative post
-Irwin's possible acceptance
-Rogers

US foreign policy
-The PRC initiative
-The President's role, Kissinger's role
-Rogers
-The State Department
-Irwin
-International economic affairs responsibility
-Upgrading
-Importance

Rumsfeld
-Job possibilities
-NATO
-Under Secretary job
-Roving ambassador job
-Kissinger
-Latin America

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 11:36 am.

An unknown person left at an unknown time before 12:28.
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-Absence during 1972 election
-NATO job
-Tenure
-State Department
-Kissinger
-Children
-Ages Conv. No. 542-5 (cont.)
-Move abroad
-State Department
-Buildup of economic post
-John B. Connally's actions as Secretary of the Treasury
-Rogers
-Focus on economic issues
-Rumsfeld's background
-Ambassadors, diplomats
-Outlook
-Loyalty
-The State Department, the President
-Irwin
-Frank C. Carlucci
-State Department
-George P. Shultz

The State Department
-Need for changes in organization, administration
-Haldeman, Peter M. Flanigan

Rumsfeld
-NATO post
-Ellsworth's assignment
-Perceptions
-Significance, needs
-The State Department
-The President's forthcoming meeting with Rogers


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-Rogers’ outlook
-Flanigan Conv. No. 542-5 (cont.)
-Elliot L. Richardson


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Departmental staffs

The Pentagon Papers
-Demonstration of danger of leaks and breaks in security

The PRC initiative
-Pentagon Papers security context

Rumsfeld
-Possible position with the State Department

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:36 am.

Diplomatic credentials ceremony
-Person responsible for coordination
-Length, format

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:28 pm.
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Schedule
-Iowa event
-Ron James (?)
-Background
-Centreville, Iowa
-Dam dedication ceremony

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Conv. No. 542-5 (cont.)

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President’s schedule

Rumsfeld
-Future plans
-Rogers
-Possible job
-Kissinger's reaction

Rumsfeld left at 12:28 pm.