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Conversation No. 568-4

Date: September 9, 1971
Time: 3:03 pm - 3:34 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Raymond P. Shafer, Jerome H. Jaffe, and Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.; the
White House photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

Greetings

The economy
-The President's September 9, 1971 speech to Congress

Photograph
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-Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins

The President's September 9, 1971 speech
-Congress
-Democrats

Krogh and Jaffe
-Trip around the world
-Discussion
-Michael R. Sonnenriech [Executive Director]

Purposes of meeting
-Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse
-Status
-Submission of report
-Politics

Marijuana Commission reports
-Marijuana
-Drug abuse
-Marijuana
-March 1972
-Public hearings
-Formal, informal
-Marijuana
-Public use
-Demographics

Marijuana Commission
-Establishment
-Handling of responsibilities
-Congress
-George P. Shultz
-Handling of funding for commission
-Morale of commission
-Formation
-Reaction of administration opponents
-Press reaction to selection of members
-Age, political outlook
-Sonnenreich
-Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs [BNDD] background
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An unknown person [Manolo Sanchez?] entered at an unknown time after 3:03 pm.

Refreshment

The unknown person [Sanchez?] left at an unknown time before 3:34 pm.

Marijuana Commission
-Sonnenreich
-Election by Commission
-Shafer
-Background as former prosecutor


Commissions
-Difficulty
-[William W.] Scranton Commission

Marijuana
-Jaffe
-Legalization
-Penalties for use
-Effect of jailing offenders
-Contact with hardened criminals
-Arlen Specter
-Probation
-Legislation in Illinois
-Smoking cigarettes compared to smoking marijuana
-Introductory effect for further use of drugs

Marijuana Commission
-Recent reputation of national commissions
-Shafer's acceptance of job
-Scranton’s experience
-John N. Mitchell
-The President's role
-Commission members
-Focus, issues under study
-Legalization of marijuana
-The President's statements
-Commission’s mandate
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-National survey
-Funding
-Congressional authorization
-Research work
-George H. Gallup
-Princeton University
-Research Associates poll
-Marijuana
-Public attitudes
-Extent of use
-Statistic
-Vietnam War
-Use of drugs
-Responsibility
-Heroin
-Addiction
-Maurice H. Seevers
-Perceptions of public health interest
-Marijuana
-Pharmacology
-Demythologizing
-Youth
-Presidential support
-Impact of fight against drug abuse
-Families
-Comparison with economic action's effect
-Other issues
-Vietnam War
-Political issue
-The President's public stance
-Legalization issue
-Composition
-Perceptions of Commission
-Stance
-Marijuana, other drugs
-Penalties
-Uniformity
-Present variations
-Texas
-6 year term
-North Dakota
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-99 year maximum term
-Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970
-Seevers, Dana L. Farnsworth, Henry Brill
-Morale
-Requested meeting with the President
-Contact with Krogh, Jaffe
-Sonnenreich
-Differing views on marijuana
-Education
-Forthcoming Commission report
-Effect
-Profile
-Scranton Commission
-Various organizations with interest and responsibilities in field of drug abuse
-Commission
-White House group headed by Jaffe
-Department of Justice
-Department of Health, Education, Welfare [HEW]
-J. Edgar Hoover
-Perceptions
-Contrast of emotional and intellectual approach
-Long range health and social impact of Commission’s action
-Role and responsibilities
-Compared to Jaffe’s office
-Handling of drug abuse
-Trip abroad
-Netherlands, Belgium, Great Britain
-British use of methadone treatment
-Marijuana
-Anecdote
-Growing marijuana plants
-Smoking, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, films
-Greta Garbo
- I am Curious [Yellow] film
-Public awareness

Gifts
-Golf
-Shafer’s game
-Golf ball
-Cufflinks
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Marianne H. Means
-Newspaper column
-Shafer and Judgeship
-Previous administration

Commission's work

Krogh and Jaffe left at 3:32 pm.

Appointment
-Mitchell
-Hugh Scott
-Philadelphia
-Unknown person's appointment
-Milton J. Shapp
-Scott

Appointment of judges
-Blacks
-Sequence of events
-Mitchell
-Ohio

American youth
-Campus groups
-Robert H. Finch
-Donald H. Rumsfeld

Marijuana Commission
-Shafer's forthcoming statement to press
-President’s convictions

Shafer left at 3:34 pm.