580–13

Conversation No. 580-13

Date: September 29, 1971
Time: Unknown between 11:55 am and 1:08 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
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The President's schedule
-The President's conversation with John B. Connally
-Preparation by the President
-Trip to Florida
-George P. Shultz
-Herbert Stein
-Connally
-Background information for the President's economic meeting
-John W. Rollins
-Reception
-Conversation between Haldeman and Connally
-Connally's current schedule
-Forthcoming Phase II announcement
-Timing
-Stock market closing
-National television
-Press conference
-Possible effect
-Connally
-Answering questions

Kissinger entered at 11:59 am.

US economic policies
-Complications
-The President's conversation with Haldeman
-National television appearance
-Leadership principle
-The President's role
-Peter G. Peterson
-Speech by the President
-International Monetary Fund [IMF]
-National television
-IMF members
-Reception by the President for IMF members
-The President's appearance and type of remarks

The President's previous meeting with Pierre-Paul Schweitzer
-Schweitzer's attitude toward the US
-Arthur F. Burns, Connally
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-The President's conversation with Schweitzer on international economy
-Public compared to private statements
-US isolationism
-Korean War
-Foreign aid programs
-Foreign political situations
-Britain's situation
-European community
-Germany
-France
-Japan
-Stance toward US
-Reasons
-US position
-New method of action in negotiations
-Type of bargaining
-Anglo-Saxon focus
-Schweitzer's s of stance
-The President previous meeting with Andrei A. Gromyko
-Reactions by Burns

US foreign relations
-State Department stance
-Type of attitude in negotiations
-Comparison to the President's attitude
-Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR]
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-US allies

The President's previous meeting with Schweitzer
-Connally's views
-Schweitzer
-Meeting

Cabinet officials
-Pressures of public opinion
-William P. Rogers
-Identity of individual
-John Foster Dulles
-Eisenhower administration
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The President's administration
-Cabinet members
-Requirements
-Rogers C. B. Morton
-Central Arizona project
-Indians
-Oil industry people
-Perceptions of White House versus departmental action
-Burns
-Conversation with Kissinger prior to ceremony for Manlio Brosio
-Price of gold
-Options
-Europe
-Japan

The President's discussion with Schweitzer
-New York bankers
-Representation of the US

David Rockefeller
-Desire for appointment with the President
-Letter to the President
-Economic discussion with the President
-Type of subject

General Motors
-Investment tax issues
-Advance notice allegation by Congressman
-Stocks

Rockefeller
-Desire for appointment with the President
-Letter to the President
-Conversation with Connally
-Rockefeller's reaction

The President's administration

International economy
-New system versus old system
-Kissinger's conversation with David Rockefeller
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-The President's conversation with Schweitzer
-Connally
-Burns's Expectations
-US position in the world
-Schweitzer
-Robert S. McNamara
-Schweitzer
-Burns
-Connally's conversation with Haldeman
-Reaction to Schweitzer
-The Earl of Cromer
-The President's discussion with Schweitzer
-US politics
-US interests
-New system of economics
-Burden-sharing
-Non-tariff barriers
-Schweitzer's position
-Burns's reaction

US foreign policy
-US Ambassadors' actions
-State Department
-Secretary of State
-Dulles
-Attitude toward foreigners
-The President's meeting with Schweitzer
-Isolationism in the US
-Kissinger's appearance before group in New York
-US position in the World
-Egocentrism
-Altruism
-Effect
-US interests compared to altruism

The President's schedule
-Preparation for Phase II meeting
-The President's trip to Florida
-Shultz
-Stein
-Shultz
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-John Connally
-Pressure
-Conversation between Haldeman and Connally
-Nationally televised speech
-Alternatives

Vietnam
-Prisoners of war [POW] situation
-Impact of September 28, 1971 National League of Families speech by the
President
-Generals and admirals at event
-John D. Ryan
-William C. Westmoreland
-Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr.
-John A. Scali
-Edward M. Kennedy
-Reception of statement by families
-Comment about POWs rotting in camps
-Negotiations
-Reasons for POW situation
-Effects of war
-Validity
-Possible outcome of war
-Military position
-Validity of war
-Honorable finish
-The President's appearance at convention
-Reactions
-Scali
-Convention resolution
-POW wives
-Kennedy and Clark M. Clifford
-Exploitation of war

Press appearances
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Value of surprise appearances by the President
-Ziegler
-TV coverage of the President
-Knowledge by reporters of planned appearance by the President
-Ziegler's responsibility
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-Scali
-Warning of the President's appearance
-Possible effect
-Surprise appearance by the President
-James D. Hughes
-Appearances by the President
-Time length
-The President's 1958 trips to Lima and Caracas
-Incidents
-San Marcos
-Type of audience
-Catholic University
-Secret Service
-Protocol
-Escorts
-Rock throwing
-The President's trip to Ohio State University
-Columbus
-Demonstrators on campus
-The President's actions
-Departure
-Alleviation of serious confrontation between the President and
demonstrators
-Secret Service
-Surprise appearances by the President
-Effect on press coverage
-Press coverage
-Pictures
-Other methods

Kennedy
-POW situation
-Statement
-Press coverage
-Career
-Comparison to Robert F. Kennedy
-Emotional nature of statements
-India trip
-Press coverage
-Number of press people
-Impact
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-Type of coverage
-Public reaction
-POW situation
-Subject knowledge by Edward Kennedy
-Missing in action [MIA] question
-Handling of POW wives
-Advice to the President

US issues
-Mansfield Amendment
-Prisoners of North Vietnam
-POWs and MIAs

Edward Kennedy
-Return from India trip
-Conversation with Kissinger
-Programs for relief
-Amount of money
-Staff work
-Background preparation
-Public impact
-Comparison to Robert Kennedy
-California primary, 1968
-Attica state prison riots
-Possible issue by Edward Kennedy
-Blacks

Busing issue
-Judge Stephen J. Roth
-Detroit decision
-De facto compared to de jure
-The President's possible action
-Constitutional amendment
-Supreme Court

Supreme Court
-John N. Mitchell
-Possible appointees
-Mitchell
-Richard H. Poff
-Opposition in Senate
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-John D. Ehrlichman's views
-American Bar Association [ABA]
-Senate
-Committed votes
-Senator Hugh Scott's views
-Possibility of passage of Poff appointment
-Strength in Senate
-Female appointee
-Age
-California
-Superior Court judge
-Dean of Southern California Law School
-Political position
-List of potential women appointees
-Criteria
-Southerners' desires
-Robert C. Byrd
-Civil rights
-Strong law and order
-Mitchell's suggestion
-Female appointee
-Justice Department
-Federal Court judge
-Women appointees
-Warren E. Burger's views
-Political impact
-Votes
-Women, blacks
-Number

The President's administration
-Women appointees
-Cabinet
-Compared to men appointees
-Barbara Franklin
-Jayne B. Spain
-Maritime Commission chairman
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-Connally
-Mitchell
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Type of job
-Left wingers
-Type of Cabinet members
-Effort
-Maurice H. Stans
-George W. Romney
-John A. Volpe
-Stans
-Speech
-Loyalty
-Romney
-Volpe
-Stans
-Volpe
-Support for the President and administration
-Richardson
-Elitists in the country

The President's appearances
-Attendance at Justice Hugo L. Black's funeral
-TV coverage
-Sermon
-Mitchell
-Richard A. Moore
-Schedule recommendation
-Funeral for Black
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-Sermon
-Type
-Justice Black
-Opposition to administration
-Unitarian minister
-Eulogy
-Strict constructionism
-The President's attendance at funeral
-Mitchell
-Moore
-Eulogy
-Schedule suggestions
-Analogies
-Leonard Garment's suggestion on black church
-Anti-Vietnam War protestors, professors
-General Lewis B. Hershey
-Personal note to Mrs. Black
-White House flags at half staff
-Ziegler, Charles W. Colson
-The President’s attendance
-Possible effect
-Ceremony
-Casket
-Funeral customs
-Casket
-The President's funeral
-Notes with instructions
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Flags half-staff
-Eulogy
-Dead person
-Flag at half-staff

The President's schedule
-Mitchell
-Connally
-Meeting with the President
-The President's trip to Florida
-Papers for preparation
-Assistance
-Shultz
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-Family
-Trip

Douglas B. Cornell reception
-Ziegler
-Invitations
-United Press International [UPI], Associated Press [AP]
-Number of people
-Former Press Secretaries
-Pierre Salinger, George E, Reedy, Jr., William Moyers, James C.
Haggerty
-Number
-Location
-State Dining Room
-Receiving line
-Number
-Invitees
-Cornell
-Refreshments
-Ziegler
-TV coverage compared to writing press
-Lights for TV coverage
-Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
-Photographs
-Receiving line

Haldeman left at 12:44 pm.

Presentation of medal to Brosio
-World leaders
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
-Walter J. Stoessel, Jr.
-Robert F. Ellsworth

The President talked with H. R. Haldeman at an unknown time between 12:44 pm and 1:08 pm.

[Conversation No. 580-13A]

NATO Ambassador
-Appointee
-Stoessel
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-Requirements
-California person

[End of telephone conversation]

An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 12:44 pm.


Instruction

The unknown person left at an unknown time before 1:08 pm

The President's forthcoming meetings with Gromyko
-Memorandum
-Photographs
-Location
-The President's possible conversation with Gromyko
-US-Soviet relations
-European issues
-European issues
-US position on European security
-Summit meeting
-Berlin agreement
-German treaties
-Agenda
-German treaties ratification
-Middle East
-Kissinger's memorandum
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-US-USSR private discussions
-Details of proposals
-Anti-ballistic missiles [ABM] sites
-US and Moscow systems
-Coverage
-Freeze
-ABM sites
-Offensive missiles
-Multiple Independently Targeted Reentry Vehicles [MIRVs] capability
-Charles H. Percy
-Edward W. Brooke
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US Presidency
-Edward Kennedy
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Effect of occupant
-Gromyko
-Conservatives
-ABMs
-MIRVS
-B-1
-Undersea Long-range Missile System [ULMS]
-Conservatives

The President's forthcoming discussions with Gromyko
-Vietnam War issue
-Middle East issue
-Israelis
-Interim settlements
-US position
-Trade issue
-Stans, Peterson
-Possible trip to USSR
-Kissinger's conversation with Dobrynin
-US approval of money to Kama River project
-Scott
-Formal announcement
-Scali
-Stans, Peterson
-Possible trip to the USSR
-Negotiations
-US approval of money for the Kama River project
-Vietnam
-Middle East issue
-US position
-Kissinger's discussion within private meeting
-South Asia
-Dangers of armed conflict
-East Bengel
-Europe
-Middle East
-Trade
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-Salt
-South Asia
-Salt
-Offensive compared to defensive
-US proposal
-Move to Map Room at conclusion of meeting
-Significance
-Vietnam
-Nikolai V. Podgorny's forthcoming trip to Hanoi
-US position in negotiating with North Vietnam
-Leonid I. Brezhnev's message
-Handling of private meeting
-Rogers
-Dobrynin
-Gromyko
-Cabinet Room
-Message
-Middle East
-Progress
-US-USSR relations
-Berlin
-Possible meeting between Dobrynin and Kissinger
-Channels of communications
-Kissinger's forthcoming discussion with Gromyko
-Vietnam issue
-Summit meeting
-Rogers's role in preparation
-Gromyko's preparation for meeting with Rogers

US-USSR relations
-Correspondence between the President and Brezhnev
-Rogers's knowledge
-Rogers
-Possible leaks
-Rogers
-Role in preparing for meeting
-USSR summit
-Announcement
-Dobrynin
-PRC summit
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US foreign economic policy
-Burns
-Possible conversation with Kissinger
-Schweitzer
-Businessmen
-Economist
-Schweitzer
-Connally
-Possible conversation with Kissinger

The PRC trip
-Rogers
-Possible conversation with Haldeman
-Decision
-Preparation
-State Department bureaucracy
-Rogers's orders
-Agenda for summit meetings
-Preparation of annual foreign policy report
-Kissinger’s forthcoming trip to PRC
-Announcement
-Timing
-Rogers
-State Department
-Agenda
-Handling

Rogers
-Haldeman's possible call
-Forthcoming discussion with the President
-Soviet summit
-PRC summit

George H.W. Bush
-Meeting with Kissinger, September 30, 1971
-Time
-Postponement of UN vote
-Rogers
-Meeting with the President
-Meeting with Kissinger
-State Department, Rogers
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Kissinger left at 1:08 pm.