647–17

Conversation No. 647-17

Date: January 13, 1972
Time: 1:24 pm - 2:14 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Robert O. Anderson, J. Erik Jonsson, John D. Ehrlichman, Kenneth R.
Cole, Jr., and Leonard Garment.

Greetings

Delays in the President's schedule
-Meeting with Neil H. McElroy and Commission

National Football League [NFL]
-Playoff games
-Super Bowl
-Dallas Cowboys, [Miami Dolphins]
-Play

Cities
-Los Angeles
-Atlantic Richfield Co. headquarters
-Bank of America
-Move from New York City to Los Angeles
-Living conditions in New York City
-Schools
-Aerospace industry
-The President's airplane shuttle trip to New York City with \"Pete\" Jones
-\"Charlie\" Jones
-“Pete” Jones
-New York Times
-“Charlie” Jones
-California
-Bohemian Grove
-Jonsson
-New Jersey
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-Dallas, Los Angeles
-Expansion
-New York City
-Deterioration
-Possible handling

Urban problems
-Possible handling
-Dialogue between urban leaders, professionals, and academics
-Lack of common background
-Mayors, governors

Project
-Timing
-Senior Executive Council of National Industrial Conference Board
-Business
-Urban problems
-Need for understanding
-Institute for National Goals
-Precedents
-Dwight D. Eisenhower administration
-Charles H. Percy committee
-Magazines
-National Purpose
-National Goals

Institute for national goals for the future
-Naming
-Difficulty
-Priorities
-Education, health defense, space
-Space shuttle
-Recent announcement
-Support by Floridians, Californians, New York Times

Meeting at Links with foundations
-Dining
-Results
-Agreement and disagreement

Foundations
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-Compared to business people
-Advisers
-Compared to executives
-Functions
-Examples
-Money to Whittier College and Occidental College

Dean Rusk
-Qualities
-Loyalty to country, Lyndon B. Johnson
-The President's talk with William C. Bullitt
-Bullitt's background as US ambassador to the Soviet Union
-Rusk's origins
-Foundations
-Qualities

Foundations
-Type of life for executives
-Reluctance to make decisions
-Studies
-Compared to lawyers

The President’s talk with Ehrlichman
-Anderson and Johnsson
-The President’s concern

National goals
-Economy
-Peter G. Peterson
-Life magazine
-Article on national purpose
-Action on issues
-Young people
-Professors
-Editorialists
-Decision making
-Compared to words, idealism
-Rising expectations
-1960’s
-The Peace Corps
-High expectations
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-Lack of action
-Frustration
-Contrast between idealists and pragmatists
-Businessmen
-Compared to idealists
-Pragmatic men with ideals
-Young people
-Idealism

Computer model of world problems
-Economic systems
-Weather
-Variables
-Jobs
-Long range planning tool
-Congress

The economy
-Automobile production
-Transportation
-Increased production
-Highways
-Energy sources
-Ralph Nader
-Questioning
-New York City
-Empire State Building
-Taller buildings

The nation's future
-Targets
-Production
-Transistor radios
-Prices
-Building a factory
-Costs
-Risks
-Goal-setting, planning
-Systems approach
-“Goals for Dallas” program
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Nation's goals
-Institute's “Goals for Dallas” program
-Methodology
-Number of people
-Duration of time
-Reading of briefs of inventories
-Subjects
-Education, welfare, recreation, government, cities
-Revisions
-Sample of 10,000 opinions
-Right-wing, left-wing views
-Consensus
-Town hall meetings
-Results
-Tools for projecting future needs
-Computers
-Industrial community
-Validity, credibility
-Proposals
-Rockwell International
-Costs
-Loose ends
-[Willard F.] Rockwell, Jr.
-Bernard D. Haber
-Problem of implementing goals
-Time
-Costs

Computers
-Use in weather forecasting
-Satellites
-Effectiveness
-Speed in processing information from satellites
-Change in forecasting
-Use of models
-Dr. William D. McElroy

Nation's goals
-Institute
-Purpose
-Leadership
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-Political aspect
-Consensus on plan
-Black communities
-Solution

American Revolution Bicentennial Commission [ARBA]
-David J. Mahoney, Jr.
-Local communities
-North Carolina

Senior Executive Council of National Industrial Conference Board
-Meetings
-Proposal
-Institute on goals
-Possible government sponsorship
-Foundations
-Purpose
-Forthcoming 1990 conference
-Administration support for Institute
-Possible message from the President for meeting
-Foundations
-Experts
-Bureaucracy

Rockefeller Foundation
-Studies
-Nelson A. Rockefeller's candidacies
-Lack of action
-Staff
-Government and corporate bureaucracies

Institute on goals
-Organization
-Role of the government
-National Science Foundation [NSF]
-Model
-Presidential commission
-Problem
-Politics
-Presidential interest, support, participation
-Eisenhower’s goals commission
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NSF
-Use of money

New institute
-Relationship with foundations
-Credit
-Funding
-Effect on those who join foundations

The environment
-National Center for Environmental Research
-Proposals
-Value

Goal-setting
-Goal institute
-Establishment of priorities
-The President's role
-Foreign policy
-The People’s Republic of China [PRC] initiative
-Compared with foundations
-Percy's report
-Businessmen
-Pragmatism and idealism
-Value
-Government involvement

Goal institute
-Cities
-Instruction and assistance in setting goals
-Teams
-Budget
-Costs
-Mahoney
-George P. Shultz

Mahoney
-Cole
-Garment
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Presentation of gifts
-Money clips

Pragmatism
-Appeal to the President
-Idealism

Anderson, et al. left and Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 2:14 pm.

Schedule
-Meeting with Jon M. Huntsman
-Children
-Taping of audio message for Vincent T. (“Vince”) Lombardi Dinner, January
14, 1972

Butterfield left at 2:14 pm.