737–2

Conversation No. 737-2

Date: June 16, 1972
Time: 10:18 – unknown time after 11:18 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Alexander P. Butterfield, John D. Ehrlichman, and H. R. (“Bob”)
Haldeman.

The President’s schedule
-James D. Hodgson
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Public ceremony for family of John Paul Vann
-William P. Rogers
-Melvin R. Laird
-Schedule for meeting
-Presentation of Medal of Freedom
-Press
-Photograph
-Joseph W. Alsop

Butterfield left at 10:25 am.
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The President's schedule
-Florida
-Grand Bahama Island
-Marine One helicopter
-Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
-Walker's Cay, Florida
-Weather
-Forecast
-Location
-Helicopter travel

Haldeman left at an unknown time before 10:26 am.

Social Security
-Richardson
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
-House Resolution [HR] 1
-Abraham A. Ribicoff
-Compromise
-Jacob K. Javits
-Frank F. Church
-Welfare reform
-The President's signature
-Richardson
-Meeting with the President
-Republicans
-House Ways and Means Committee
-Payroll tax

The President's schedule
-Haldeman

The President left at an unknown time before 10:26 am.

Hodgson, Richardson, and Caspar W. Weinberger entered at 10:26 am

[General conversation]

Seating arrangements
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Busing
-Justice Department opinion
-Ralph E. Erickson
-Office of Legal Counsel
-William G. Milliken

Higher Education Bill
-Signing date
-Busing
-Detroit case
-Robert P. Griffin
-Educational groups
-Meeting with President
-Purpose
-HEW
-Political goals


Welfare reform
-Wednesday group letter
-HR 1

The President entered at an unknown time after 10:26 am.

Clark MacGregor, Kenneth R. Cole, Jr., and Thomas C. Korologos entered at 10:26 am.

HR 1
-Review
-Congress
-Costs
-Merits
-Practical problems
-Hodgson
-MacGregor
-Richardson
-Legal analysis
-Goals of legislation
-Welfare reform legislation
-Congressional review
-Work incentives
-Wage scales
-Passage through Congress
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-Cost
-Senate Finance Committee bill
-Comparison with HR 1
-Conflicts
-Russell B. Long provision
-HR 1 modifications
-Public service jobs
-Money to state and local governments
-Long
-Ribicoff's amendment
-Compromise possibilities
-Restoration of provisions
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB]
-Ribicoff amendment
-Cost-of-living increases
-Modernization
-Political acceptability
-Ribicoff amendment
-Finance Committee members
-Griffin
-Republican Senators
-Democratic support
-Korologos
-Advice on changes
-Republican unity
-Move to left
-Benefits
-Ribicoff amendment
-Republicans
-Support
-Strategy
-Long provisions
-Ribicoff amendment
-Problems
-William V. Roth, Jr.
-Amendment
-Senate action on welfare provisions
-Supporters
-George S. McGovern's nomination
-Democratic convention
-Timing
-Present opportunities
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-Presidential leadership
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
-Republican votes
-Ribicoff
-Support
-Need for compromise
-Long provision
-Work provision
-Flaws
-Change in attitude
-Advantages
-Ribicoff amendment
-Costs
-Long proposal
-Ribicoff
-Compromise
-Costs
-Support organizations
-National Association of Manufacturers [NAM]
-American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial Organizations [AFL-
CIO]
-League of Women Voters
-Implementation
-Fiscal year
-Richard P. Nathan’s view
-Future costs
-Compromise
-Administration's response
-Likelihood
-Ribicoff proposal
-Supporters of legislation
-Timing
-Richardson’s view
-Risks
-Senate
-Possible changes
-Political considerations of HR 1
-Ribicoff
-Requirements
-McGovern
-Democratic convention
-Democrats
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-Long
-Senate bill
-Introduction
-Democratic platform
-Administration's response
-HR 1
-McGovern
-Issue
-Democrats
-Democratic platform
-Hearings
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Ribicoff
-McGovern
-Moynihan
-McGovern
-Hubert H. Humphrey's criticism
-Ribicoff
-Moynihan
-Distinction with Administration
-Convention
-Provisions of current bill
-Possible administration actions
-Negotiations with Congress
-Possible compromises
-Food stamps
-Cost of living increases
-Social Security taxes
-Work incentives
-Scope
-Minimum wage protection
-Support for states
-Workfare programs
-Long
-Wallace F. Bennett

The President's schedule
-Luis Echeverria Alverez

Welfare
-Basis of decision
-HR 1
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-McGovern

Stephen B. Bull entered and Ehrlichman, et al. left at 11:18 am

The President’s schedule
-Forthcoming telephone call
-Forthcoming meeting with Echeverria

Bull left at an unknown time after 11:18 am.