763–19

Conversation No. 763-19

Date: August 7, 1972
Time: 3:01 pm – 3:45 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Leslie D. Campbell, Jr., Warren Davis, William M. Dudley, Walther B.
Fidler, Calvin W. Fowler, Elmon T. Gray, Frederick T. Gray, Charles W. Gunn, Jr., Edward E.
Lane, Paul W. Manns, George N. McMath, B.R. Middleton, William F. Parkerson, Jr., Lacy E.
Putney. Randall O. Reynolds, Eleanor P. Sheppard, D. French Slaughter, Jr., W. Roy Smith,
Edward E. Willey, J. D. Stetson Coleman, John O. Marsh, Jr., J. Smith Ferebee, Richard T.
Short, James F. Olmsted, Richard D. Obenshain, Thomas R. Glass, Fitzgerald Bemiss, Mills E.
Godwin, Russell M. Carneal, Robert B. Ball, Sr., Herbert Bateman; the White House
photographer was present at the beginning of the meeting.

Arrangements for photographs

Introductions and photographs
-Bemiss
-Chairman
-Manns
-Bowling Green, Virginia
-Putney
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-Bedford, Virginia
-Slaughter
-Fowler
-Danville, Virginia
-Carneal
-Middleton
-Virginia Beach, Virginia
-McMath
-Eastern Shore, Virginia
-Davis
-Fairfax County, Virginia
-Lane
-Richmond, Virginia
-Reynolds
-Bateman
-Newport News, Virginia
-Melvin R. Laird
-Parkerson
-Richmond, Virginia
-Campbell
-Hanover County, Virginia
-Smith
-Petersburg, Virginia
-Appropriations committee
-Fiddler
-Frederick Gray
-Chesterfield, Virginia
-Gunn
-Lexington, Virginia
-Willey
-President Pro Tem
-Ball
-Henrico County, Virginia
-Glass
-Dudley
-Lynchburg, Virginia
-Dudley’s football career
-Obenshain
-Olmsted
-Short
-Virginia Beach, Virginia
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-Marsh
-Winchester, Virginia
-Coleman
-Del Ray Beach, Florida
-The President's previous visit to Coleman's house.
-George A. Smathers
-Claude Pepper
-Helen Gahagan Douglas
-Ferebee

The President's previous meeting with Ollie Matson
-Football from 1969 Pro Bowl

Photograph of group


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1960 election
-Candidates
-Issues
-US international role
-US strengths
-Economy
-Law enforcement
-Permissiveness

1972 election
-Foreign policy issues
-George S. McGovern’s proposed cuts in defense spending
-Amount
-Aircraft carriers
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-Aid to Greece
-Impact
-The President’s view
-The President's previous meetings
-Leonid I. Brezhnev
-Chou En-lai
-Effect of defense cuts on US relations with the Soviet
Union and the People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Reduction of waste in defense spending
-International agreements
-Mutual arms reduction

-Domestic policy issues
-McGovern’s spending proposals
-Impact on tax burden
-Welfare
-McGovern’s $1000 per person proposal
-Increase in welfare rolls
-McGovern’s $6500 per year proposal
-Increase in welfare rolls
-The President’s view
-Welfare to work initiatives
-Nature of man
-Need for incentives
-Supreme Court
-The President’s view of appointments
-George H.W. Bush [?]
-Unelected status of Supreme Court appointees
-Interpretation of laws
-Compared with elected status of Congress
-Creation of laws
-Lewis F. Powell, Jr.
-William H. Rehnquist
-Warren E. Burger
-Harry A. Blackmun
-Role of Supreme Court
-William O. Douglas's interpretation
-Role of courts
-Virginia
-The President’s knowledge of Virginia
-The President’s attendance of Duke University Law School
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-Clarence (“Ace”) Parker
-Strict constructionists
-The President’s role in appointing new members to the Supreme Court
-Importance of this role
-The President’s previous conversation with an unknown person
-New York
-The President’s appointment of conservative to the Supreme Court
-Need for balance
-The President’s previous conversation with John B. Connally
-Realignment of political groups along ideological lines
-Future appointees in government
-Unimportance of party lines


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Presidential gifts
-Presidential seal
-Oval office
-Flag
-Cuff links
-Gifts to wives
-Bow pins

Groups agreement with the President’s philosophy

Presentation of gifts

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:01 pm.

Forthcoming White House tour
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-Further distribution of gifts in Cabinet Room
-Michael J. Farrell

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Bull et al., except Marsh, left at 3:32 pm.


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1972 election
-Invitation for the President to speak at [Thomas] Woodrow Wilson’s birthplace
-Dwight D. Eisenhower’s speech in 1960
-Advantage of acceptance
-South
-Internationalism
-Isolationism
-McGovern supporters
-Wilson’s background
-Staunton
-Nearby birthplace of Eisenhower’s mother; Abraham Lincoln’s
father, Thomas Jefferson
-Wilson
-Admiration for Jefferson, Lincoln
-Speech
-Philosophy
-Jefferson, Lincoln, Wilson
-Eisenhower
-Theme
-Isolationism compared to internationalism
-“Cap and gown community”
-Wilson
-World War I
-Mexico
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-Marsh’s paper

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Marsh left at 3:45 pm.

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