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- President Richard M. Nixon
- H. R. Haldeman
- Ronald L. Ziegler
September 7, 1972
Conversation No. 772-11
Date: September 7, 1972
Time: 12:37 pm - 1:38 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
The President's schedule
-Previous meeting with James and John A. Roosevelt
-First families
-Reputations
-Celebrity value
-John S.D. Eisenhower
-Belgium
-Chiang Kai-shek
-Idea of American royalty
-John B. Connally
-James Roosevelt
-Haldeman’s view
-James and John Roosevelt
-Working together
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30
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 3m 12s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
*****************************************************************
Clark MacGregor and Frederic V. Malek
-Suggestion
-A meeting between the President and Maurice H. Stans
-Encouragement to Stans
-Dinner
-Suit in District Court
Speeches
-Length
-Haldeman's conversation with Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-American Legion speech
-The President's position
-Content of speech
-Length stipulations
-Effect on content
-American Legion speech
-Number of words
-Effect on content
-Number of words
-Number of words
-Price
-Form
-Number of words
-Supplementary material
-Price
-Understanding of speech writing problems
Polls
-Charles W. Colson report
-Louis P. Harris poll
31
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
-Vietnam
-Bombing and mining of harbors
-Percentage points
-Communist control of Vietnam
-Percentage points
-Coalition government in Saigon
-Percentage points
-Shift in American opinion on Vietnam War
-Campaign tactics by Nixon toward George S. McGovern
-McGovern’s policy
-Earlier poll results
-Current poll results
-Declining confidence in McGovern
-McGovern’s comments
-Poll results
-McGovern's victory
-Possible effect in Vietnam
-Nguyen Van Thieu and coalition government
-Poll results
-Credibility of R. Sargent Shriver’s comment
-Henry A. Kissinger's trip to Paris and Saigon
-McGovern’s view
-Poll results
-McGovern’s reaction
-Poll results
-McGovern and Kissinger's negotiations
-Pierre Salinger’s trip
-W. Ramsey Clark and investigation of US bombings
-The President’s 1968 promises
-Earlier poll results
-Current poll results
-US troops in Vietnam
-The President's position
-McGovern's position
-Poll results
-William P. Rogers
-Speaking out on Vietnam
-State Department
-Bombing statements
-Withdrawal statements
32
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
Vietnam
-Communist takeover
-US public opinion
-Kissinger's opinion
-Liberals in US
-Joseph R. McCarthy
-Kissinger
-Rogers
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 12m 8s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
*****************************************************************
Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 1:03 pm.
Press relations
-Tax increase issue
-Hugh Scott and Gerald R. Ford statement
-Tax increase
-Spending ceiling
-Congress responsibility
-Press questions
-Tax issue and duration of administration
-The President's position
-Statement by Ziegler
-Tax increase
-Possible Congressional action
-Possible effect
-Submitting tax increase and budget cuts
-Tax increase
-Numbers
-Statement by Ziegler
33
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
-Tax increases
-Duration of administration
-Forthcoming press conference
-Ziegler appearance with John D. Ehrlichman
-Tax issue
-Press questions
-Response by Ehrlichman and administration
-Administration's statement
-Administration’s strategy
-McGovern's budget
-Amount of money
-Tax increase
-The President's position
-McGovern's position
-Administration's position
-The President’s view
-Ehrlichman's appearance with Ziegler
-The President's position
-Ehrlichman
-Congressional leaders
-The President's recent nomination acceptance speech
-Tax increase issue
-Value-added tax [VAT]
-Tax reform
-Equitability
-Changes
-McGovern's position
-The President's position
-Reform issue relation upon tax increase
-McGovern's position
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Taxes
-Public relations aspects
-Nixon's tax
-Administration's response during press conference
-Consideration of the issue
-Latest reports and information
-Upcoming years of new administration
-Reforms and proposals
-McGovern's position
34
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
-Ehrlichman
-The President’s view
-The President's schedule
James R. (“Jimmy”) Hoffa
-Trip to North Vietnam
-Negotiations for the release of US prisoners of war [POW’s]
-Harold Gibbons
-Kissinger
-Administration's public response
-Effects of response
-Salinger
-Jane Fonda
-Clark
Press relations with administration
-Hoffa's trip to Vietnam and other related incidents
Propaganda
-Administration's position
-David Dellinger
-Edward M. Kennedy
-Clark and Fonda’s statements in Vietnam
-Salinger and a negotiating position in Vietnam
-Negotiations in North Vietnam and Paris
-Administration's public position in press conference
-Hoffa’s actions
-Ziegler’s view
-Hoffa’s conduct
-Role of private citizen
-Clark and Salinger
-Analysis
-Press
-The President's position
-The President’s view
-White House position on Salinger
-Hoffa’s conduct
Forthcoming press conference
-Economic issue
-Tax increase issue
35
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
-VAT
-Meeting between George P. Shultz and the President
-Recommendations
-Ehrlichman
Republican congressional leaders
-Ignorance of McGovern’s welfare plan
Press corps
-Communications
-Press conferences
-Types of questions
-Distortions of facts on the President's previous statements
-Tax issue
-VAT
Economic issue
-Press stories
-Afternoon press conference
-Ehrlichman appearance with Ziegler
-Time
-Tax increase issue
-VAT
-McGovern
-Budget
-New York speech
-Amount
-Percent of tax increase
-Tax increase
-The President's position
-Second term
-Size of government
-Tax reform
-VAT
-Equity
-Package to Congress submitted in 1969
-Minimum tax
-Income threshold
-Shultz
-Recommendation before 1972 election
-Minimum tax
36
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
-Equity
-Income
-Property tax reform
-Tax reform and tax reduction
-Changes
-Connally
-Significance
-Acceptance speech
-Administration's actions
-Individual taxes
-Corporate taxes
-Excise tax
-Tax roles
-Type of people
-Salaries
-Reductions in percentages
-Press reactions to economic message
-Camera
-Ehrlichman's statement
-Presentation of statement
-Tone
-The President's position
-Shultz
-Property tax reform
-1972 election
-VAT
-Hypothetical questions during press conference
Press relations
-Party for the press
-Reactions
-Effect
-Accessibility to press
-The President's appearance
-Effect
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Press attitude
-McGovern
-Answering the President's challenges
-The President's appearance
-Campaigning
37
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
-Hors d'oeuvres
-The President’s view
Ziegler’s schedule
White House staff
-Ronald L. Jackson
-The President’s view
-Type of manager
-Lucy A. Winchester
-The President’s view
-Menu items
-Ziegler’s view
-The President’s view
-Jackson
-Philippine staff
-Black people
-Type of workers
-Comparison to blacks
-Henry Haller
-White House Chef
-Haldeman’s view
-Desserts
-Type of food prepared
-Fish
-Camp David and Sequoia's chef
-Victorio M. Dela Cruz
-Zosimo T. Monzon
-The President’s view
-Pedro A. Baylon
-San Clemente chef (Dela Cruz)
-Type of food
-The President's visit
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Menu
-Warmth of food
Comparison of White House kitchen to the President's residence kitchen in White
House
-Redecorating
-The President's conversation with Mrs. Nixon
38
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
-Kitchen
-Compared with San Clemente kitchen
-Remodeling
White House staff
-The President’s view
-Fred Mayfield
-Jackson
-Type of staff
-Blacks
Press conference
-Administration's position and response to questions
-Tax increases
-Shultz
-VAT
-McGovern
Ziegler left at 1:27 pm.
White House staff
-The President’s view
Press relations
-Administration's position
-Congressmen and senators
White House staff
-Ehrlichman's staff
-Knowledge
-Public statements
-Writer for Ehrlichman
-Lee W. Huebner
-John K. Andrews, Jr.
-Buchanan
-Buchanan
-Response speeches
*****************************************************************
39
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 49s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
*****************************************************************
Awards by the President
-Republican National Convention
-Certificates
-Letters
-Watches
-Shultz
-Watch as a gift
Vietnam
-Casualties
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 5m 39s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
*****************************************************************
Haldeman and the President left at 1:38 pm.
Date: September 7, 1972
Time: 12:37 pm - 1:38 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
The President's schedule
-Previous meeting with James and John A. Roosevelt
-First families
-Reputations
-Celebrity value
-John S.D. Eisenhower
-Belgium
-Chiang Kai-shek
-Idea of American royalty
-John B. Connally
-James Roosevelt
-Haldeman’s view
-James and John Roosevelt
-Working together
*****************************************************************
30
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 3m 12s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
*****************************************************************
Clark MacGregor and Frederic V. Malek
-Suggestion
-A meeting between the President and Maurice H. Stans
-Encouragement to Stans
-Dinner
-Suit in District Court
Speeches
-Length
-Haldeman's conversation with Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-American Legion speech
-The President's position
-Content of speech
-Length stipulations
-Effect on content
-American Legion speech
-Number of words
-Effect on content
-Number of words
-Number of words
-Price
-Form
-Number of words
-Supplementary material
-Price
-Understanding of speech writing problems
Polls
-Charles W. Colson report
-Louis P. Harris poll
31
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
-Vietnam
-Bombing and mining of harbors
-Percentage points
-Communist control of Vietnam
-Percentage points
-Coalition government in Saigon
-Percentage points
-Shift in American opinion on Vietnam War
-Campaign tactics by Nixon toward George S. McGovern
-McGovern’s policy
-Earlier poll results
-Current poll results
-Declining confidence in McGovern
-McGovern’s comments
-Poll results
-McGovern's victory
-Possible effect in Vietnam
-Nguyen Van Thieu and coalition government
-Poll results
-Credibility of R. Sargent Shriver’s comment
-Henry A. Kissinger's trip to Paris and Saigon
-McGovern’s view
-Poll results
-McGovern’s reaction
-Poll results
-McGovern and Kissinger's negotiations
-Pierre Salinger’s trip
-W. Ramsey Clark and investigation of US bombings
-The President’s 1968 promises
-Earlier poll results
-Current poll results
-US troops in Vietnam
-The President's position
-McGovern's position
-Poll results
-William P. Rogers
-Speaking out on Vietnam
-State Department
-Bombing statements
-Withdrawal statements
32
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
Vietnam
-Communist takeover
-US public opinion
-Kissinger's opinion
-Liberals in US
-Joseph R. McCarthy
-Kissinger
-Rogers
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 12m 8s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
*****************************************************************
Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 1:03 pm.
Press relations
-Tax increase issue
-Hugh Scott and Gerald R. Ford statement
-Tax increase
-Spending ceiling
-Congress responsibility
-Press questions
-Tax issue and duration of administration
-The President's position
-Statement by Ziegler
-Tax increase
-Possible Congressional action
-Possible effect
-Submitting tax increase and budget cuts
-Tax increase
-Numbers
-Statement by Ziegler
33
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
-Tax increases
-Duration of administration
-Forthcoming press conference
-Ziegler appearance with John D. Ehrlichman
-Tax issue
-Press questions
-Response by Ehrlichman and administration
-Administration's statement
-Administration’s strategy
-McGovern's budget
-Amount of money
-Tax increase
-The President's position
-McGovern's position
-Administration's position
-The President’s view
-Ehrlichman's appearance with Ziegler
-The President's position
-Ehrlichman
-Congressional leaders
-The President's recent nomination acceptance speech
-Tax increase issue
-Value-added tax [VAT]
-Tax reform
-Equitability
-Changes
-McGovern's position
-The President's position
-Reform issue relation upon tax increase
-McGovern's position
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Taxes
-Public relations aspects
-Nixon's tax
-Administration's response during press conference
-Consideration of the issue
-Latest reports and information
-Upcoming years of new administration
-Reforms and proposals
-McGovern's position
34
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
-Ehrlichman
-The President’s view
-The President's schedule
James R. (“Jimmy”) Hoffa
-Trip to North Vietnam
-Negotiations for the release of US prisoners of war [POW’s]
-Harold Gibbons
-Kissinger
-Administration's public response
-Effects of response
-Salinger
-Jane Fonda
-Clark
Press relations with administration
-Hoffa's trip to Vietnam and other related incidents
Propaganda
-Administration's position
-David Dellinger
-Edward M. Kennedy
-Clark and Fonda’s statements in Vietnam
-Salinger and a negotiating position in Vietnam
-Negotiations in North Vietnam and Paris
-Administration's public position in press conference
-Hoffa’s actions
-Ziegler’s view
-Hoffa’s conduct
-Role of private citizen
-Clark and Salinger
-Analysis
-Press
-The President's position
-The President’s view
-White House position on Salinger
-Hoffa’s conduct
Forthcoming press conference
-Economic issue
-Tax increase issue
35
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
-VAT
-Meeting between George P. Shultz and the President
-Recommendations
-Ehrlichman
Republican congressional leaders
-Ignorance of McGovern’s welfare plan
Press corps
-Communications
-Press conferences
-Types of questions
-Distortions of facts on the President's previous statements
-Tax issue
-VAT
Economic issue
-Press stories
-Afternoon press conference
-Ehrlichman appearance with Ziegler
-Time
-Tax increase issue
-VAT
-McGovern
-Budget
-New York speech
-Amount
-Percent of tax increase
-Tax increase
-The President's position
-Second term
-Size of government
-Tax reform
-VAT
-Equity
-Package to Congress submitted in 1969
-Minimum tax
-Income threshold
-Shultz
-Recommendation before 1972 election
-Minimum tax
36
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
-Equity
-Income
-Property tax reform
-Tax reform and tax reduction
-Changes
-Connally
-Significance
-Acceptance speech
-Administration's actions
-Individual taxes
-Corporate taxes
-Excise tax
-Tax roles
-Type of people
-Salaries
-Reductions in percentages
-Press reactions to economic message
-Camera
-Ehrlichman's statement
-Presentation of statement
-Tone
-The President's position
-Shultz
-Property tax reform
-1972 election
-VAT
-Hypothetical questions during press conference
Press relations
-Party for the press
-Reactions
-Effect
-Accessibility to press
-The President's appearance
-Effect
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Press attitude
-McGovern
-Answering the President's challenges
-The President's appearance
-Campaigning
37
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
-Hors d'oeuvres
-The President’s view
Ziegler’s schedule
White House staff
-Ronald L. Jackson
-The President’s view
-Type of manager
-Lucy A. Winchester
-The President’s view
-Menu items
-Ziegler’s view
-The President’s view
-Jackson
-Philippine staff
-Black people
-Type of workers
-Comparison to blacks
-Henry Haller
-White House Chef
-Haldeman’s view
-Desserts
-Type of food prepared
-Fish
-Camp David and Sequoia's chef
-Victorio M. Dela Cruz
-Zosimo T. Monzon
-The President’s view
-Pedro A. Baylon
-San Clemente chef (Dela Cruz)
-Type of food
-The President's visit
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Menu
-Warmth of food
Comparison of White House kitchen to the President's residence kitchen in White
House
-Redecorating
-The President's conversation with Mrs. Nixon
38
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
-Kitchen
-Compared with San Clemente kitchen
-Remodeling
White House staff
-The President’s view
-Fred Mayfield
-Jackson
-Type of staff
-Blacks
Press conference
-Administration's position and response to questions
-Tax increases
-Shultz
-VAT
-McGovern
Ziegler left at 1:27 pm.
White House staff
-The President’s view
Press relations
-Administration's position
-Congressmen and senators
White House staff
-Ehrlichman's staff
-Knowledge
-Public statements
-Writer for Ehrlichman
-Lee W. Huebner
-John K. Andrews, Jr.
-Buchanan
-Buchanan
-Response speeches
*****************************************************************
39
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Oct-06)
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 49s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
*****************************************************************
Awards by the President
-Republican National Convention
-Certificates
-Letters
-Watches
-Shultz
-Watch as a gift
Vietnam
-Casualties
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 5m 39s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
*****************************************************************
Haldeman and the President left at 1:38 pm.