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- President Richard M. Nixon
- Charles W. Colson
- Alexander P. Butterfield
- Stephen B. Bull
- John D. Ehrlichman
- William E. Timmons
October 13, 1972
Conversation No. 797-29
Date: October 13, 1972
Time: 4:39 pm - 5:43 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Charles W. Colson.
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 8m 19s ]
H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 4:47 pm.
42
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
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Welfare
-George E. Christian’s previous conversation with Colson
-Black demonstrators
-New Summary
-Black demonstrators
-Arrests
-Washington, DC police
-Statements
-Radio Address on Crime and Drug Abuse, October 15, 1972
-Length
-Broadcast time
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
The President's schedule
-Frank L. Rizzo
-Campaign practices
-Support for Nixon
-Philadelphia wards
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 10m 5s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
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1972 campaign practices
-White Paper
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-1701 [Pennsylvania Avenue] [Committee to Re-elect the President]
43
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
[CRP]
-Research problems
-John E. Nidecker
-Richard (“Dick”) Tuck
-L. Nicholas Ruwe
-Dwight L. Chapin
-John C. Whitaker
-Democratic Party activities
-Publications, demonstrators
-Donald F. Rodgers
-New York office
-Phoenix headquarters
-George S. McGovern's forthcoming speech on corruption
-Response
-Robert J. Dole
-Clark MacGregor
-Kenneth W. Clawson
-Libel Suits
-Clawson
-Washington Post
-New York Times Co. v. Sullivan
-Clawson’s background
-Nieman Fellowship
-Reporter
-Marilyn Berger
-Effect on public confidence
-Colson’s experience
-Clawson
-Washington Post building dedication ceremony
-Negative posters
-International Brotherhood of Teamsters
-William P. Rogers
-Clawson
Alexander P. Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 4:47 pm.
The President's crime and drug abuse speech
-Length
-Reduction
Butterfield left at an unknown time before 5:25 pm.
44
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
1972 campaign practices
-White paper
-Violent activity in campaign
-Memorandum to all the President’s campaign offices
-Clawson
-Open letter to editors
-Washington Post
-New York Times
-Nieman Fellowship
-Op-Ed article
-Effect of Washington Post reporting on other newspapers
-White House press corps
-Clawson’s ex-colleagues
- Washington Post's Watergate coverage
-Effect on the 1972 campaign
-John B. Connally’s forthcoming television [TV] appearance
1972 campaign
-Colson’s recent conversation with Louis P. Harris
-Polls
-Harris
-Watergate
-George H. Gallup
-George S. McGovern’s Vietnam speech
-Timing
-Daniel Yankelovich
-Timing
-Gallup
-Strategy
-Harris
-Albert E. Sindlinger
-Approval
-The President
-Compared to McGovern
-Tone
-Mood of the country
-Connally’s forthcoming TV appearance
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
45
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 6m 4s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
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The President's schedule
-Meeting with John D. Ehrlichman, William E. Timmons
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 31s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
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1972 campaign practices
-Heckling
-Eleanor (Stegeburg) McGovern
-Teamsters
-R. Sargent Shriver
-Dole
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Tricia Nixon Cox
-Eleanor McGovern
-Health
Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:47 pm.
Ehrlichman, Timmons
Bull left at an unknown time before 5:35 pm.
46
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
1972 campaign practices
-Demonstrators
-Eleanor McGovern
-Shriver
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Vermont
-Tricia Nixon Cox
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Eleanor McGovern
-Claudia A. (Taylor)(“Lady Bird”) Johnson
-1960 campaign
-Texas
-Hotel
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BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 4s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
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Vietnam negotiations
-Henry A. Kissinger’s trips
-Shriver statement
-North Vietnamese
-Washington Star editorial cartoon
-Le Duc Tho and Kissinger
-George S. McGovern-Shriver button
-Press reaction
Past elections
-Kevin P. Phillips
-1800 election
-Thomas Jefferson
-John Adams, Federalists
47
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Foreign policy
-Revolutionary War
-British
-Alien and Sedition Act
Ehrlichman and Timmons entered at 5:25 pm.
Congressional relations
-Adjournment
-House Resolution [HR] 1
-Welfare reform bill
-Timing
-Quorum
-The President's schedule
-Camp David
-Speech
-Telephone calls
-HR 1
-Possibility of veto
-Wallace F. Bennett
-John W. Byrnes
-Water bill
-Possibility of veto
-Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
-HR 1
-Effect on payroll taxes, budget
-The President’s recent conversation with Ehrlichman
-Tax increases, spending
-Civilian contract services
-George P. Shultz
-Kitchen Police [KP]
-George Meany
-Sine die resolution
-Water bill
-Quorum
-Pressure groups
-Mayors, governors
-Telephone calls, mail
-Heavy industry
-Pulp companies
-House of Represenatives
-H.R. 1
48
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Bennett
-Byrnes
-Possibility of the President's signing
-The President’s instructions
-Water bill
-Veto possibility
-Legal aspects
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Gerald R. Ford
-Leslie C. Arends
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-Peter H. Dominick
-HR 1
-Colson’s view
-Discretionary funding
-Tax increase possibility
-Post water projects
-1960-67
-Vetoes
-Senior citizens
-George S. McGovern
-Labor support
-Civilian contract services
-Non-union work
-HR 1
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Byrnes
-Welfare reform
-Type IV
-Byrnes
-Bennett
-Adjournment
Haldeman, Colson, and Timmons left at 5:36 pm.
Washington, DC jail takeover by inmates
-Walter E. Washington
-Possible statement
-Judge [Albert C. Bryant]
-Class action suit from prisoners
-Corrections Department head [Kenneth L. Hardy]
-Decision on punishment
49
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Shirley Chisholm
Frank Tummillo
-Meeting with the President, February 1972
-Murder
-Thomas J. Devine
-Injuries
-Age
Washington, DC jail
-Administration
-Possible administration action
-Timing
-1972 election
-[Washington]
-Hardy
-Guards
-Compared to White House in 1969
Prison reform
-Expense
-Need for positive action
-The President's schedule
-Prison visit
-Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr. program
-Williamsburg
-Prisoners
-Blacks
-Age
-San Quentin
-The President’s trip as Senatorial candidate
-Future
-Prison farms in California
-San Clemente
-Federal prisons
-Washington, DC prisoners
-Federal system
-Krogh
-Lorton
-Washington Post
-Watergate
-Washington Star story
-Garnett D. (“Jack”) Horner
50
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Williamsburg
-Domestic Council
-Justice Department
-Bureau of Prisons
-Krogh
-Upcoming conversation with Ehrlichman
Ehrlichman left at 5:43 pm.
Date: October 13, 1972
Time: 4:39 pm - 5:43 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Charles W. Colson.
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 8m 19s ]
H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 4:47 pm.
42
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1
*****************************************************************
Welfare
-George E. Christian’s previous conversation with Colson
-Black demonstrators
-New Summary
-Black demonstrators
-Arrests
-Washington, DC police
-Statements
-Radio Address on Crime and Drug Abuse, October 15, 1972
-Length
-Broadcast time
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
The President's schedule
-Frank L. Rizzo
-Campaign practices
-Support for Nixon
-Philadelphia wards
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 10m 5s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2
*****************************************************************
1972 campaign practices
-White Paper
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-1701 [Pennsylvania Avenue] [Committee to Re-elect the President]
43
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
[CRP]
-Research problems
-John E. Nidecker
-Richard (“Dick”) Tuck
-L. Nicholas Ruwe
-Dwight L. Chapin
-John C. Whitaker
-Democratic Party activities
-Publications, demonstrators
-Donald F. Rodgers
-New York office
-Phoenix headquarters
-George S. McGovern's forthcoming speech on corruption
-Response
-Robert J. Dole
-Clark MacGregor
-Kenneth W. Clawson
-Libel Suits
-Clawson
-Washington Post
-New York Times Co. v. Sullivan
-Clawson’s background
-Nieman Fellowship
-Reporter
-Marilyn Berger
-Effect on public confidence
-Colson’s experience
-Clawson
-Washington Post building dedication ceremony
-Negative posters
-International Brotherhood of Teamsters
-William P. Rogers
-Clawson
Alexander P. Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 4:47 pm.
The President's crime and drug abuse speech
-Length
-Reduction
Butterfield left at an unknown time before 5:25 pm.
44
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
1972 campaign practices
-White paper
-Violent activity in campaign
-Memorandum to all the President’s campaign offices
-Clawson
-Open letter to editors
-Washington Post
-New York Times
-Nieman Fellowship
-Op-Ed article
-Effect of Washington Post reporting on other newspapers
-White House press corps
-Clawson’s ex-colleagues
- Washington Post's Watergate coverage
-Effect on the 1972 campaign
-John B. Connally’s forthcoming television [TV] appearance
1972 campaign
-Colson’s recent conversation with Louis P. Harris
-Polls
-Harris
-Watergate
-George H. Gallup
-George S. McGovern’s Vietnam speech
-Timing
-Daniel Yankelovich
-Timing
-Gallup
-Strategy
-Harris
-Albert E. Sindlinger
-Approval
-The President
-Compared to McGovern
-Tone
-Mood of the country
-Connally’s forthcoming TV appearance
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
45
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 6m 4s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3
*****************************************************************
The President's schedule
-Meeting with John D. Ehrlichman, William E. Timmons
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 31s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4
*****************************************************************
1972 campaign practices
-Heckling
-Eleanor (Stegeburg) McGovern
-Teamsters
-R. Sargent Shriver
-Dole
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Tricia Nixon Cox
-Eleanor McGovern
-Health
Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:47 pm.
Ehrlichman, Timmons
Bull left at an unknown time before 5:35 pm.
46
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
1972 campaign practices
-Demonstrators
-Eleanor McGovern
-Shriver
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Vermont
-Tricia Nixon Cox
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Eleanor McGovern
-Claudia A. (Taylor)(“Lady Bird”) Johnson
-1960 campaign
-Texas
-Hotel
*****************************************************************
BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
[Personal returnable]
[Duration: 1m 4s ]
END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5
*****************************************************************
Vietnam negotiations
-Henry A. Kissinger’s trips
-Shriver statement
-North Vietnamese
-Washington Star editorial cartoon
-Le Duc Tho and Kissinger
-George S. McGovern-Shriver button
-Press reaction
Past elections
-Kevin P. Phillips
-1800 election
-Thomas Jefferson
-John Adams, Federalists
47
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Foreign policy
-Revolutionary War
-British
-Alien and Sedition Act
Ehrlichman and Timmons entered at 5:25 pm.
Congressional relations
-Adjournment
-House Resolution [HR] 1
-Welfare reform bill
-Timing
-Quorum
-The President's schedule
-Camp David
-Speech
-Telephone calls
-HR 1
-Possibility of veto
-Wallace F. Bennett
-John W. Byrnes
-Water bill
-Possibility of veto
-Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO]
-HR 1
-Effect on payroll taxes, budget
-The President’s recent conversation with Ehrlichman
-Tax increases, spending
-Civilian contract services
-George P. Shultz
-Kitchen Police [KP]
-George Meany
-Sine die resolution
-Water bill
-Quorum
-Pressure groups
-Mayors, governors
-Telephone calls, mail
-Heavy industry
-Pulp companies
-House of Represenatives
-H.R. 1
48
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Bennett
-Byrnes
-Possibility of the President's signing
-The President’s instructions
-Water bill
-Veto possibility
-Legal aspects
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Gerald R. Ford
-Leslie C. Arends
-Howard H. Baker, Jr.
-Peter H. Dominick
-HR 1
-Colson’s view
-Discretionary funding
-Tax increase possibility
-Post water projects
-1960-67
-Vetoes
-Senior citizens
-George S. McGovern
-Labor support
-Civilian contract services
-Non-union work
-HR 1
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Byrnes
-Welfare reform
-Type IV
-Byrnes
-Bennett
-Adjournment
Haldeman, Colson, and Timmons left at 5:36 pm.
Washington, DC jail takeover by inmates
-Walter E. Washington
-Possible statement
-Judge [Albert C. Bryant]
-Class action suit from prisoners
-Corrections Department head [Kenneth L. Hardy]
-Decision on punishment
49
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Shirley Chisholm
Frank Tummillo
-Meeting with the President, February 1972
-Murder
-Thomas J. Devine
-Injuries
-Age
Washington, DC jail
-Administration
-Possible administration action
-Timing
-1972 election
-[Washington]
-Hardy
-Guards
-Compared to White House in 1969
Prison reform
-Expense
-Need for positive action
-The President's schedule
-Prison visit
-Egil (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr. program
-Williamsburg
-Prisoners
-Blacks
-Age
-San Quentin
-The President’s trip as Senatorial candidate
-Future
-Prison farms in California
-San Clemente
-Federal prisons
-Washington, DC prisoners
-Federal system
-Krogh
-Lorton
-Washington Post
-Watergate
-Washington Star story
-Garnett D. (“Jack”) Horner
50
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)
-Williamsburg
-Domestic Council
-Justice Department
-Bureau of Prisons
-Krogh
-Upcoming conversation with Ehrlichman
Ehrlichman left at 5:43 pm.
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