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797–5
  • President Richard M. Nixon
  • John D. Ehrlichman
  • Ronald L. Ziegler
October 13, 1972
Conversation No. 797-5

Date: October 13, 1972
Time: 10:51 am - 11:17 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with John D. Ehrlichman.

Water bill
-Edmund S. Muskie
-Congressional schedule
-Letter to the President
-Pocket veto
-Layoffs possibility
-Continuing resolution
-Spending as discretionary
-Spending as discretionary
-House of Representatives
-Senate
-Muskie
-Speech
-Letter
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)

-Veto possibility
-Override
-Pocket
-Length of Congressional session
-House Resolution [HR] 1
-William E. Timmons's view
-HR 1
-Debt ceiling bill
-Leslie C. Arends
-House of Representatives
-Michael J. Mansfield
-Carl B. Albert
-Deadline
-Timmons’s view
-HR 1, debt ceiling bill, continuing resolution

HR 1
-Social Security changes (Titles I, II and III)
-Impact on payroll taxes, budget deficit
-Amount of net increase
-Possibility of veto
-Department of Health, Education, and Welfare [HEW]
-Pocket

Water bill
-Possibility of signing
-Ehrlichman’s and Timmons’s view
-Mandatory spending
-Tax increase
-Justice Department
-Budget
-Political implications
-Possible veto
-Discretionary spending provisions
-Possible action taken
-Legislative history

Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 10:58 am.

The President's schedule
-The President's Radio Address on Crime and Drug Abuse, October 15,
1972
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)

-Announcement
-Text
-Timing
-Vietnam negotiations
-Henry A. Kissinger’s staff

Ziegler left at 11:00 am.

Water bill
-Veto possibility
-HR 1
-Discretionary spending provisions
-Cities
-Ehrlichman's and Rogers C.B. Morton’s schedules
-Issues and Answers television [TV] program
-Budget impact
-Possible raising of taxes
-Veto message
-Discretionary spending provisions
-Possible congressional actions
-Anti-ballistic missiles [ABMs]
-Office of Management and Budget [OMB]
-Veto possibility
-Low-key approach
-Ehrlichman and Morton [appearance on Issues and Answers]
-Announcement

Arthur F. Burns
-Spending ceiling bill
-Russell B. Long
-Senate Finance Committee
-Trip to Japan
-Taiwan, Republic of China
-Kissinger
-US economic policy
-Wendell Wyatt, Henry C. Bellmon memoranda

H.R. 56
-Veto possibility
-Timber land purchases
-Congressional relations
-Staff efforts
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)


Consumer protection

Spending ceiling bill
-Cloture
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Leonard B. (“Len”) Jordan’s schedule
-The President’s October 12, 1972 breakfast meeting and meeting with Senate
leaders
-Wilbur D. Mills
-Conference
-The President’s actions
-Possible vetoes
-Water bill
-Water bill
-The President's October 12, 1972 meeting with Senators
-Long
-The President’s telephone call to the Senators

Presidential power

1972 campaign
-Election prospects
-South
-George S. McGovern
-Daniel J. Evans
-Washington state
-Albert D. Rossellini
-Similarities to the President’s positions
-Property taxes, government power
-Fiscal conservatism
-Income tax
-Second term
-Tone
-National defense, peace, honor, justice, revenue sharing
-Welfare
-Public opinion
-Busing
-Racism
-Crystallization of national attitude
-Compared to 1969
-Family Assistance Plan [FAP]
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)

-Congress’ involvement
-The President’s recent trip to Atlanta
-George P. Shultz
-Civilian contract services
-Youth Conservation Corps
-Compared to Civilian Conservation Corps [CCC]
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-Possible signing
-OMB
-Cost
-Ghettos
-Need for positive programs
-The President’s constituencies
-Ethnic groups
-Blacks
-South
-North
-Midwesterners, westerners
-Hippies
-McGovern as issue
-Stance on issues
-National defense, the flag, honor, decency, morality
-Atlanta
-Amnesty, patriotism
-South
-Moral, spiritual beliefs
-Moral, spiritual beliefs
-Midwest
-Upper New York
-California
-Ethnic groups
-Catholics
-Tenor of the times
-William F. (“Billy”) Graham
-Fundamentalism
-Permissiveness, anti-Americanism
-George Meany and Eugenia (McMahon) Meany
-McGovern
-Foreign policy, lifestyle, patriotism
-Supporters
-Atlanta
-College students
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

Tape Subject Log
(rev. Nov-03)

-Impact on the marginal voter

The President’s schedule
-Joe D. Waggonner, Jr.
-Forthcoming trip to Romania

Ehrlichman left at 11:17 am.
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