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Conversation No. 818-3

Date: December 5, 1972
Time: 12:05 pm - 12:25 pm
Location: Oval Office

President met with Adm. Horacio Rivero, Jr. and Col. Richard T. Kennedy. Members of the
press, the White House photographer and Stephen B. Bull were present at the beginning of the
meeting.

Greetings

[Photograph session]

Rivero’s Appointment as Ambassador to Spain
-US Trade Relations
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-Spain
-Japan
-South Korea
-France
-Great Britain
-Common Market
-Spain
-National Interests
-Spain
-Relations with US
-Tone
-Gen. Francisco Franco
-The President’s Trip to Spain, October 2-3, 1970
-Reception
-Franco’s reception of Rivero [October 11, 1972]
-Rivero’s Spanish-speaking ability
-Franco
-Ministers
-Interpreters
-Nuances
-Joint Committee meetings
-Lopez Lauscano Rodo
-Arabs
-Rivero’s conversations with Lopez-Rodo
-Franco’s Future
-Rivero’s tenure
-Stability
-Spanish Civil War
-Revolution
-Unknown person
-Economy
-Per Capita Income
-Income Distribution
-Compared to Italy
-Management
-Four Year Plan
-Social Aspects
-Housing, education, income distribution
-Public Opinion
-Juan Carlos
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-Successors
-Juan Carlos
-Luis Carrero Blanco
-Opposition
-Students, communists, socialists, workers
-Army, police, National Guard
-Carrero Blanco
-The President’s view
-Carrero Blanco
-Relationship with Lopez-Rodo
-Common Market
-Spain-Europe Relations
-Liberalization
-Carrero Blanco
-Relations with Europe
-Franco
-Spanish Civil War
-Communists
-Franco
-Socialists
-Franco
-US
-Netherlands, Denmark, France
-Britain
-Franco’s Future
-Liberalization
-Relations with US
-Trade
-Rivero’s forthcoming conversations with Franco, Carrero Blanco, Lopez-
Rodo
-The President’s trip to Spain
-Reception
-Trade
-Great powers in Europe
-West Germany, France, Italy, Britain, Spain

Bull entered at unknown time after 12:05 pm.

The President’s schedule
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Bull left at an unknown time before 12:25 pm.

US-Spain Relations
-Great powers in Europe
-Hand metaphor
-The President’s trip to Spain
-Reception
-Future
-Spain’s work habits
-Oil
-Organization
-Middle East
-Arabs
-Israel
-Egypt, Algeria Morocco, Sudan
-Israel
-Soviet Union, Egypt
-Sixth Fleet

US Defense Policy
-Europe
-1972 Election
-[George S. McGovern’s ] statements
-Sixth Fleet
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
-Sixth Fleet
-Massive Retaliation
-Credibility


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Conversation No. 818-3 (cont’d)

-Sixth Fleet
-Conventional Forces
-Reduction
-Effect
-Soviet Union
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]

White House Gifts
-Cuff links

Best Wishes
-Juan Carlos [and Princess Sophia]
-Visit to US, January 1971
-Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon
-Lopez-Rodo
-Franco
-Family
-Carmen Polo
-Grandchild
-Possible visit to US
-Age
-Polo
-Grandchild
-Conversation with the President
-Palace
-Dwight D. Eisenhower
-Palau de Pedralbes

Spanish Flag
-Apollo XVI
-Presentation to Franco

Rivero and Kennedy left at 12:25 pm.