822–12

Conversation No. 822-12

Date: December 13, 1972
Time: Unknown between 4:53 pm and 6:09 pm
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Location: Oval Office

The President met with Stephen B. Bull and Manolo Sanchez.

The President’s schedule
-Request for a meeting with John D. Ehrlichman

Bull and Sanchez left at an unknown time before 4:55 pm.

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at 4:55 pm.

The President’s schedule
-Rose Mary Woods
-Flowers
-Elwood Robinson’s and Oliver P. Bolton’s funerals
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s schedule
-Ronald L. Ziegler
-Ehrlichman
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
-Introductions
-Charles W. Colson
-Photograph session
-Colson’s suggestion
-Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins
-Number of guests
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
-Duration
-Wives
-The President’s trip to Texas [September 22, 1972]
-Compared to greetings in reception line
-Colson’s view
-Reception line

Ehrlichman entered at 5:00 pm.

The President’s schedule
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
-Photograph session
-The President’s trip to Texas
-Telephone call to Apollo XVII astronauts
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-December 5, 1972 telephone call

Bull and Butterfield left at an unknown time before 5:01 pm.

The President’s schedule
-Meeting with Treasury Department officials
-Meeting on tax policy
-George P. Shultz’s suggestion
-Politics
-Ehrlichman’s involvement
-Shultz’s understanding and “sales” ability

Haldeman entered at 5:01 pm.

The President’s schedule
-Meeting on tax policy
-Politics
-Ehrlichman’s involvement
-Private school aid
-Shultz
-Title
-Assistant to the President
-Knowledge
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-Andrews Air Force Base
-Richmond
-Meeting with [Wilbur D. Mills and Russell B. Long]
-Tax program

Second term reorganization
-The President’s conversation with Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-Elliot L. Richardson
-Jonathan Moore and Laurence E. (“Larry”) Lynn, Jr.
-Dr. Jerome B. Weisner-Massachusetts Institute of Technology
[MIT] “Cabal”
-National security
-Jackson’s conversation with Richardson
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Lobbying of Jackson
-Henry A. Kissinger
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-Natural resources
-Earl L. Butz’s knowledge
-Farm issues
-Rogers C. B. Morton’s knowledge
-John C. Whitaker
-Richard M. Fairbanks, III
-Whitaker
-Ehrlichman’s staff
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-Richard G. Kleindienst’s request for a meeting with the President
-Note
-Rose Mary Woods
-Ehrlichman
-William P. Rogers
-White House staff
-Compared to Sherman Adams
-L[ouis] Patrick Gray, III
-Relationship with the President
-Opposition
-John N. Mitchell
-Ehrlichman’s conversation with Kleindienst
-Joseph T. Sneed announcement
-Senate confirmation
-Mitchell
-Conversation with Kleindienst
-List of names
-Kleindienst’s request for a meeting with the President
-Confirmation
-Ehrlichman’s view
-Watergate coverup
-Gray’s actions
-John W. Dean, III
-Connecticut visits
-White House involvement
-Protection of Mitchell
-Telephone call to the President
-Lt. Gen. Vernon A. Walters
-Need for change

The President’s schedule
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-“End –runs”
-Woods
-Shultz
-Tax policy
-Politics
-Ehrlichman
-Kissinger
-Peter M. Flanigan
-Haldeman’s role
-Woods’s role
-Staff meetings
-Absence
-Reinstitution
-Tax policy
-Shultz
-The President’s meeting with Shultz
-Purpose
-Edwin S. Cohen
-Shultz’s conversation with Haldeman
-Tax policy
-Advisory Committee on Intergovernmental Relations [ACIR]
-Tax policy
-Options
-Lewis A. Engman
-Note taking

Second term reorganization
-Engman
-Federal Trade Commission
-Consumer background

The President’ schedule
-Staff meetings
-Cabinet

Second term reorganization
-First term
-Second term
-Defense Department [DOD]
-Richardson
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-Moore
-Transition role
-Rowland Evans and Robert D. Novak article
-Jackson
-Lynn
-Moore
-Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
-Caspar W. (“Cap”) Weinberger
-Conversation with Haldeman

The President’s schedule
-Access to the President
-Kleindienst
-Woods
-Rogers
-Secretary
-Kissinger

Second term reorganization
-White House relationship with Cabinet
-Tone
-Press relations
-Congressional relations
-Hubert H. Humphrey
-Appropriations
-Cabinet meetings
-Press relations
-Recent article
-Changes
-Establishment of Office of Management and Budget [OMB]
-Pace
-Press relations
-Congressional relations
-Public relations [PR]
-Cabinet
-Butz
-Plan
-Congressional relations
-Announcement
-Butz
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-Timing
-Confirmation
-Butz
-Congressional relations
-Leadership meeting
-Republicans
-Carl B. Albert, Michael J. Mansfield
-Cabinet
-Natural Resources
-Butz
-Testimony
-Chet Holifield
-Samuel J. Ervin, Jr.
-Plan
-Timing
-The President’s schedule
-Post-December 19, 1972
-Congressional reconvention
-January 3, 1972
-Holifield
-Los Angeles
-Gerald R. Ford
-Aspen, Colorado
-Vale, Colorado


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Robert C. (“Bob”) Wilson
-House Campaign Committee
-George H. W. Bush
-Announcement of candidacy

Haldeman talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 5:01 pm and 6:09 pm.
The President and Ehrlichman continued their conversation simultaneously.

[Conversation No. 822-12A]

Wilson
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-Announcement of candidacy
-Press reports

Linwood Holton
-Republican National Committee [RNC] Chairmanship
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-Reaction to Bush appointment

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The President’s schedule
-Meeting with governors
-Republicans
-Democrats
-Executive committees
-Group size
-White House staff
-Republicans
-Group size
-Frequency
-Republicans
-Holton’s suggestion
-Quarterly meetings
-Meeting in State Dining Room, December 3, 1969
-Frequency of conferences
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Ronald W. Reagan
-Holton
-George H. W. Bush
-Meeting with Ehrlichman and Kenneth R. Cole, Jr.
-Meetings with mayors
-John V. Lindsay
-Meetings with county commissioners
-Ehrlichman’s and Cole’s meeting with Holton

Second term reorganization
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-Anne L. Armstrong
-Bicentennial Commission
-Jackson [Place]
-White House staff
-Assets
-Toughness
-Possible title
-Special Assistant to the President
-Leonard Garment
-Special Consultant to the President
-Assistants to the President
-Garment
-Raymond K. Price, Jr.
-Assistant to the President
-Tokenism
-Meetings
-[Virginia H. Knauer] of Consumer Affairs
-Political duties
-Bush
-South
-Harry S. Dent
-Armstrong’s conversation with Haldeman
-Haldeman
-The President’s schedule
-Rogers


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-Bush
-William E. Brock, III
-Wilson
-House Campaign Committee
-Future relations
-Campaign fundraising
-Gerald R. Ford
-Incumbents
-Consolidated offices
-Research
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-Public relations [PR]
-Television [TV]
-Brock plan
-Coordination
-Wilson
-Possible candidacy
-House Campaign Committee chairmanship
-Dent
-Washington Post report
-Efforts to defeat
-Ford
-Jack F. Kemp
-Clarence J. (“Bud”) Brown, Jr.

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Second term reorganization
-Armstrong
-Possible title
-“Symmetry”
-Special Assistant to the President
-Compared to Assistant to the President
-Flanigan
-Assistant to the President
-Peter G. Peterson
-First term
-Office location
-Office location
-Executive Office Building [EOB]
-The President’s office
-Charles B. (“Bud”) Wilkinson
-Value
-Public appearance
-Political qualities
-Compared to Robert J. Dole
-Press relations
-Leaks
-Knauer
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-Possible duties
-Consumer affairs
-Knauer
-White House

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 5:01 pm.

The President’s schedule
-Meeting with [Gen. Walter R. Tkach and Dr. W. Kenneth Riland]

Bull left at an unknown time before 6:09 pm.

Second term reorganization
-Knauer
-Consumer affairs
-Armstrong
-Possible duties
-Arts, humanities, consumerism
-Arts
-John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts
-Armstrong’s conversation with Haldeman
-Women’s jobs
-Men’s jobs
-Bicentennial Commission
-Bicentennial
-Vice President Spiro T. Agnew
-Conversation with Ehrlichman
-Armstrong
-Francis J. (“Frank”) Sinatra
-Armstrong
-Purpose
-Richard M. Nixon era
-Arts and humanities
-“Fairies”
-White House
-Scheduling
-Garment
-Innovation
-Price
-Innovation
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-House philosopher role
-Armstrong
-Possible title
-PR
-Assistant to the President
-Flanigan
-“Metaphysics”
-Bicentennial Commission
-Meetings
-Staff, scheduling, legislative leaders, politics
-Women
-PR
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Dwight L. Chapin
-Loyalty
-Politics
-Dole
-1972 campaign
-Congress
-The President’s efforts
-Fred Schwengel
-Compared to Barry M. Goldwater [in 1964]
-Holton

Congressional relations
-1972 campaign
-Republican candidates
-Quality
-Responsibility
-Wilson
-Peter M. Dominick
-William L. Scott of Virginia
-Holton
-Jesse M. Helms of North Carolina
-Peter V. Domenici
-Goldwater
-Agnew
-Scott
-Holton’s view
-Stets Coleman
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-Coleman
-George A. Smathers
-Florida

Second term reorganization
-Armstrong
-Tobin Armstrong
-Conversation with Haldeman
-Need for decision
-Women
-Timing
-The President’s schedule
-International affairs
-Announcements
-Assistant Secretaries
-Tokenism

The President’s schedule
-Blacks
-Possible “summit” meeting
-Statement
-Texas
-Lyndon B. Johnson Library
-Garment
-Daniel P. (“Pat”) Moynihan
-Previous meeting
-Vernon E. Jordan, Jr.
-Leaders
-Congressional Black Caucus
-Roy Wilkins, Jordan
-Congressional Black Caucus
-1972 election
-1969
-Frederick B. Dent
-Jordan
-Press relations
-Possible telephone call to Ehrlichman
-Jewell S. Lafontant
-Supreme Court position
-Thurgood Marshall
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-Jordan
-Public statements
-Speeches
-Telephone calls to Ehrlichman
-Women
-Barbara Franklin
-Patricia R. Hitt
-Armstrong’s view
-Cabinet positions
-Cabinet
-Transportation Department
-Armstrong
-Compared to Claude S. Brinegar
-Symbolism
-Brinegar
-Cabinet
-South
-Dent
-Brinegar
-Purported Catholicism
-Performance
-Withdrawal
-John V. Tunney
-Armstrong
-Hitt
-Armstrong
-Toughness
-Television [TV] appearances
-Texas
-Background
-Louisiana
-Cajun ethnicity
-Robert J. Brown
-Peter J. Brennan
-Dent
-Brinegar
-William E. Simon
-Haldeman’s view
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
-Salomon Brothers
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-House
-New Jersey
-View
-Brinegar
-Meeting with the President
-The President’s view
-Meeting with Egil G. (“Bud”) Krogh, Jr.
-Krogh’s opinion
-Background
-Personal appearance
-Compared to Richard C. Van Dusen
-Armstrong
-Secretary of Transportation
-Krogh
-Tokenism
-Women
-Tokenism
-Oveta Culp Hobby
-Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW] Secretary
-Departure
-Frances Perkins
-Franklin D. Roosevelt
-Hobby
-Roy L. Ash
-Armstrong
-Managerial view
-Compared to Ash’s view
-Women
-Announcement
-Tokenism
-Need for portfolio
-Brown
-Garment
-Wilkinson
-Robert F. Ellsworth
-Bryce N. Harlow
-Counselor to the President
-Arthur F. Burns
-Moynihan
-Ambassadorship to India
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-William F. (“Billy”) Graham’s view
-Management
-Brinegar
-Reputed Catholicism
-Personality
-Frederic V. Malek
-Conversations with Ehrlichman
-John A. Volpe
-1972 campaign
-Political ability
-Krogh
-Confirmation
-Possible fight
-Compared to Walter J. Hickel
-Confirmations
-Hickel
-Compared to Brinegar
-Meetings with Whitaker and Ehrlichman
-Sheraton Park Hotel
-Effect
-Beliefs, portfolio, outlook
-Brinegar
-Effect
-Issues
-Women
-Assistant Secretaries
-Commission chairmanships
-Dean Burch
-Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]
-Dr. Edward E. David, Jr.
-Shultz’s view
-James D. Hodgson
-European Economic Community [EEC]
-AEC
-David
-Conditions
-Value
-Office of Science and Technology [OST]
-Dixy Lee Ray
-Dr. James R. Schlesinger’s view
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

-Background
-Tacoma, Washington
-Women
-Tokenism
-Armstrong
-Armstrong
-Chief of Protocol
-Assets
-Politics
-South, ex-Democrat
-Bicentennial Commission
-Scheduling
-Justice Department
-Civil Rights Division
-J. Stanley Pottinger
-Move from HEW
-Loyalty
-HEW
-Age
-American Bar Association [ABA]
-Loyalty
-Responsiveness to Ehrlichman

The President’s schedule
-Reception for 1972 election supporters
-Photograph session
-Charles W. Colson
-The President’s trip to ranch in Texas
-Wives


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Wilson
-House Campaign Committee candidacy
-Displeasure
-Daniel Kuykendall
-Ford
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Conversation No. 822-12 (cont’d)

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The President’s schedule
-Meeting with Jackson
-Energy
-Ehrlichman
-Deregulation
-Congressional relations
-Ehrlichman’s responsibility
-Watergate
-Hearings
-Edward M. Kennedy’s speech
-Edmund S. Muskie

Watergate
-Hearings
-Jackson
-Status
-Jackson
-Politics
-Jackson’s possible action
-Trial
-[E. Howard Hunt, Jr.]
-Possible separation of case
-Motion filing
-Timing
-Death of Dorothy Hunt

Second term reorganization
-Armstrong
-Politics
-Qualities
-Relationship with Rose Mary Woods
-Hitt
-Office location
-Desk

The President, Haldeman, and Ehrlichman left at 6:09 pm.
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