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- President Richard M. Nixon
- Paul L. Martin
- Ronald L. Ziegler
- H. R. Haldeman
- Henry A. Kissinger
- Stephen B. Bull
January 4, 1973
Conversation No. 833-10
Date: January 4, 1973
Time: Unknown between 9:03 am and 9:04 am
Location: Oval Office
The President talked with Paul L. Martin.
-5-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
[See Conversation No. 833-10A]
[See Conversation No. 35-84]
Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 9:03 am.
[End of telephone conversation]
Press relations
-Ziegler’s schedule
-Receptions
-Freshmen Congressmen and bipartisan Congressional leaders
-Wire services
-Helen A. Thomas
-Frances Lewine
-Friendly reporters
-Wives
H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 9:05 am.
-Jerald F. (“Jerry”) TerHorst
-Nick Thimmesch
-Relations with White House
-Clark R. Mollenhoff
-Ted Knapp
-Fay Mills
-Louise Hutchinson
-Chicago Tribune
-Aldo Beckman
-Number to be invited
Press conference
-Vietnam settlement
-News summary
-Richard Valeriani
-Talks in Paris
-The President's meetings with National Security advisors
-William P. Rogers, Melvin R. Laird
-Henry A. Kissinger, Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Sensitivity of talks
-6-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Congressional leaders
Harry S. Truman Memorial service
-[Thomas] Hale Boggs
-Congressional attendees
-Truman
-Washington Post article
-Heads of State visit with the President
-Funeral
-The President's attendance
Press relations
-Announcements
-Commissions
-Gerald C. Smith
-Meeting with the President
-National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA]
-James C. Fletcher
-Assistant secretaries
-Agriculture Department
-Secor D. Browne
-Civil Aeronautics Board
-Earl L. Butz
-Poultry
-Nixon loyalist list
-Thimmesch, Mollenhoff
-People not to be seen by staff
-Alice Brinkel [?]
-Hugh S. Sidey
-Time
-Rogers
-James B. (“Scotty”)Reston
-Kissinger
-Columns
-Message discipline
-Compared to Cabinet, White House staff
-Kissinger
Roberto Clemente memorial fund
-Richard A. Moore
-7-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Press work
-Press coverage
-Television [TV]
-Radio
-Wire services
-Daniel M. Galbreath
-Local TV
-TV
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-Congress
-Interview with GI addicts
-Vietnam War
-CBS
-Bias
-Impact on administration
Press relations
-Vietnam War
-GI addicts
-White House staff
-Vietnam War
-Washington press corps
-George S. McGovern
-1972 election
-Charles W. Colson
-Press posture toward administration
Clemente memorial fund
-Richard Moore
-Jim Murray
-Gerald L. Warren
-Sportswriters’ Association
-San Diego
-Arthur Daley [?]
-New York Times
-Richard Moore
-Murray
-Advertisement
-Super Bowl
-8-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
Ronald L. Ziegler left at 9:20 am.
Press relations
-White House staff
-George P. Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman
-Ziegler
-Concerns
-CBS
-Report on Republicans
-Jacob K. Javits
-Charles H. Percy
-Edward W. Brooke
-Bombing resolution
Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Schedule
Rose Mary Woods
-Meeting with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Ned Sullivan
-Alexander Butterfield
-Stephen B. Bull
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-People on vacation
-Anne L. Armstrong
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
Ziegler's list of loyalists
Ehrlichman's meeting with President
-Priority of Vietnam settlement
-Domestic affairs staff
-1973 Inauguration
-William E. Timmons
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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
[Dwight] David Eisenhower, III
-9-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Employment
-Capitol Hill
-Hugh Scott
-Policy committee
-Wallace Johnson
-Thomas (“Tom”) C. Korologos
-Congressional employment
-House of Representatives
-Experience
-Research assistant
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
*******************************************************************
Book by [First name unknown] Lott
-Inaugural speeches of Presidents
-Historian
-California
-1969 inaugural speech
-Possible employment
-Collection of speeches
Government research programs
-Ehrlichman
-Budget cuts
-Massachusetts Institute of Technology [MIT]
-Written report
-James R. Schlesinger
-Caspar W. Weinberger
-Elliot L. Richardson
-MIT
-Harvard University
-Massachusetts’ state funding
-Defense Department budget
-Subsidies to higher education
-Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
-Weinberger
-Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]
-Schlesinger
-10-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Contract work
Henry A. Kissinger entered at 9:31 am.
-University of California
-Operating funds
-Federal government
-Defense Department
-State government
-Professors' salaries
-Federal subsidies
-Weinberger
-George P. Shultz
-Report
-Funds cut
-HEW
-Weinberger
-Agriculture Department
-Transportation Department
-National Science Foundation [NSF]
-National Institutes of Health
-Subsidies for higher education
-Schlesinger
-Weinberger
-MIT
-Meeting with Ehrlichman
Second term reorganization
-Appointment of Dixy Lee Ray to AEC
-Schlesinger
-Chet Holifield
-Well run agency
-Schlesinger
-Ehrlichman
-Arms Control and Disarmament Agency [ACDA]
-Smith
-U. Alexis Johnson
-Chief negotiator
-Budget cuts
-Weinberger
-11-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Kissinger’s recommendations
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-Background checks
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-Harold M. Agnew
-Los Alamos laboratory
-[Unintelligible name]
-Edward Teller
-Agnew
-Offer of job
-Los Alamos laboratory
-Defense of administration
-Los Alamos laboratory
-John S. Foster, Jr.
-Management skill
-Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]
Rose Mary Woods
Haldeman left at 9:35 am.
New Year’s card from Mao Tse-Tung
-Chou En-Lai
-Photograph
-Publicity
New Year’s card from Leonid I. Brezhnev
Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Brezhnev's children
-Tricia Nixon Cox
-Edward R. F. Cox
Vietnam settlement
-Kissinger's meeting
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Representatives
-The President's letter
-Response
-Authority
-12-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Henry M. (\"Scoop\") Jackson
-Kissinger’s note
-Bombing
-Negotiations
-The President’s silence
Kissinger's dinner at Ar Cote Basque
-Proprietor
-Admiration for the President
-Wine
-Response by patrons
-United Nations [UN]
-Support for the President
-New York City
-Basques
-Jews
Second term reorganization
-The President's dinner with Haig
-The President's meeting with Ziegler
-Loyalists
-Harry S. Dent
-Seeding of government
-Consultation with White House
-Haig
-Relationship with Kissinger
-Informant
-Responsibilities in Defense Department
-Vietnam settlement
-Memorandum
-Change of command
-Laird
-Bombing
-Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
-Richardson
-The President's meeting with Richardson
-Kissinger's presence
-Moorer
-William P. Clements, Jr.
-National Security Council [NSC] system
-13-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Intelligence system0
-Cuts
-Redundance
Laird
-Defense Program Review Committee
-Richardson
-Team player
-Leaks
Vietnam settlement
-Haig
-Trip to Puerto Rico
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Talk with New York Jews in Puerto Rico
-Support for bombing in Vietnam
-Compared to Congressional opinion
-Kissinger’s visit to Palm Springs
-Ted Hewitt [?]
-CBS's “60 Minutes”
-Hollywood
-Billy Wilder
-B-52s
-Support for the President
-Morale of staff
-Ziegler, Haldeman
-Ehrlichman, Shultz
-Congressional relations
-Public support for the President
-Possible breakdown of negotiations
-1972 election
-Trip to New York
-Nancy Maginnes
-William F. Buckley, Jr.
-Dinner
-Ar Cote Basque restaurant
-Patrons’ support for the President
-Morale of staff
-Haldeman, Colson, Ziegler
-Kissinger’s meeting with PRC representatives
-Instructions from Peking
-14-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Dealings with Vietnamese
-Letter to the President from Chou En-Lai
-Greetings
-Letter from the President to Chou En-Lai
-Tone
-Shanghai Communique
-Hegemony
-Potential trouble in Asia
-Indo-China
-US role
Second term reorganization
-Richardson
-Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs
-Richardson
-Jonathan Moore
-Haldeman’s role
-Helmet Sonnenfeldt
-Lawrence Eagleburger
-Jonathan Moore
-Liason with NSC
-Jonathan Moore
-Leaks
-Dove
-Position on Cambodia
-Compared to Richardson
-Sonnenfeldt
-Deputy
-Eagleburger
-Loyalty
-Sonnenfeldt
-Richardson
-Haldeman’s role
-Jonathan Moore
Vietnam settlement
-Negotiations
-Possible breakdown
-Bombing of North Vietnam
-15-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-South of 20th parallel
-Effect
-North Vietnamese
-Condition
-North Vietnamese perception
-Nuclear weapons
-Congressional relations
-Resolutions
-Effect
-Prospects
-North Vietnam
-Technical meeting
-Chinese statement
-Significance
Second term reorganization
The President's meeting with Richardson
-Chain of command
-Moorer
-Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS]
-Tactical air forces
-Clements
-Cuts
-Air power
-Surface to Air Missiles(SAMS)
-Airplanes
-Obsolescence
-B-1 bomber
-US Air Force
-Defense Department, Intelligence system
-Lack of progress
-Laird
-Chain of command
-Vietnam settlement
-South Vietnam
-Thailand
-Consolidation
Vietnam settlement
-Option 1 and Option 2
-16-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Quality
-Results of December bombing
-Thieu
-1973 Inauguration
-South Vietnamese Air Force
-Bombing of North Vietnam
-Halt
-Question of resumption
-North Vietnamese land moves
-South Vietnamese Air Force
-Strengths
-B-52 bombers
-Pause in bombing
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:35 am.
The President's schedule
Bull left at an unknown time before 10:02 am.
Negotiations
Kissinger left at 10:02 am.
Date: January 4, 1973
Time: Unknown between 9:03 am and 9:04 am
Location: Oval Office
The President talked with Paul L. Martin.
-5-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
[See Conversation No. 833-10A]
[See Conversation No. 35-84]
Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 9:03 am.
[End of telephone conversation]
Press relations
-Ziegler’s schedule
-Receptions
-Freshmen Congressmen and bipartisan Congressional leaders
-Wire services
-Helen A. Thomas
-Frances Lewine
-Friendly reporters
-Wives
H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman entered at 9:05 am.
-Jerald F. (“Jerry”) TerHorst
-Nick Thimmesch
-Relations with White House
-Clark R. Mollenhoff
-Ted Knapp
-Fay Mills
-Louise Hutchinson
-Chicago Tribune
-Aldo Beckman
-Number to be invited
Press conference
-Vietnam settlement
-News summary
-Richard Valeriani
-Talks in Paris
-The President's meetings with National Security advisors
-William P. Rogers, Melvin R. Laird
-Henry A. Kissinger, Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-Sensitivity of talks
-6-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Congressional leaders
Harry S. Truman Memorial service
-[Thomas] Hale Boggs
-Congressional attendees
-Truman
-Washington Post article
-Heads of State visit with the President
-Funeral
-The President's attendance
Press relations
-Announcements
-Commissions
-Gerald C. Smith
-Meeting with the President
-National Aeronautics and Space Administration [NASA]
-James C. Fletcher
-Assistant secretaries
-Agriculture Department
-Secor D. Browne
-Civil Aeronautics Board
-Earl L. Butz
-Poultry
-Nixon loyalist list
-Thimmesch, Mollenhoff
-People not to be seen by staff
-Alice Brinkel [?]
-Hugh S. Sidey
-Time
-Rogers
-James B. (“Scotty”)Reston
-Kissinger
-Columns
-Message discipline
-Compared to Cabinet, White House staff
-Kissinger
Roberto Clemente memorial fund
-Richard A. Moore
-7-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Press work
-Press coverage
-Television [TV]
-Radio
-Wire services
-Daniel M. Galbreath
-Local TV
-TV
-Columbia Broadcasting System [CBS]
-Congress
-Interview with GI addicts
-Vietnam War
-CBS
-Bias
-Impact on administration
Press relations
-Vietnam War
-GI addicts
-White House staff
-Vietnam War
-Washington press corps
-George S. McGovern
-1972 election
-Charles W. Colson
-Press posture toward administration
Clemente memorial fund
-Richard Moore
-Jim Murray
-Gerald L. Warren
-Sportswriters’ Association
-San Diego
-Arthur Daley [?]
-New York Times
-Richard Moore
-Murray
-Advertisement
-Super Bowl
-8-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
Ronald L. Ziegler left at 9:20 am.
Press relations
-White House staff
-George P. Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman
-Ziegler
-Concerns
-CBS
-Report on Republicans
-Jacob K. Javits
-Charles H. Percy
-Edward W. Brooke
-Bombing resolution
Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-Schedule
Rose Mary Woods
-Meeting with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Ned Sullivan
-Alexander Butterfield
-Stephen B. Bull
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
-People on vacation
-Anne L. Armstrong
-Julie Nixon Eisenhower
Ziegler's list of loyalists
Ehrlichman's meeting with President
-Priority of Vietnam settlement
-Domestic affairs staff
-1973 Inauguration
-William E. Timmons
*******************************************************************
[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]
[Dwight] David Eisenhower, III
-9-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Employment
-Capitol Hill
-Hugh Scott
-Policy committee
-Wallace Johnson
-Thomas (“Tom”) C. Korologos
-Congressional employment
-House of Representatives
-Experience
-Research assistant
[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]
*******************************************************************
Book by [First name unknown] Lott
-Inaugural speeches of Presidents
-Historian
-California
-1969 inaugural speech
-Possible employment
-Collection of speeches
Government research programs
-Ehrlichman
-Budget cuts
-Massachusetts Institute of Technology [MIT]
-Written report
-James R. Schlesinger
-Caspar W. Weinberger
-Elliot L. Richardson
-MIT
-Harvard University
-Massachusetts’ state funding
-Defense Department budget
-Subsidies to higher education
-Department of Health, Education and Welfare [HEW]
-Weinberger
-Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]
-Schlesinger
-10-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Contract work
Henry A. Kissinger entered at 9:31 am.
-University of California
-Operating funds
-Federal government
-Defense Department
-State government
-Professors' salaries
-Federal subsidies
-Weinberger
-George P. Shultz
-Report
-Funds cut
-HEW
-Weinberger
-Agriculture Department
-Transportation Department
-National Science Foundation [NSF]
-National Institutes of Health
-Subsidies for higher education
-Schlesinger
-Weinberger
-MIT
-Meeting with Ehrlichman
Second term reorganization
-Appointment of Dixy Lee Ray to AEC
-Schlesinger
-Chet Holifield
-Well run agency
-Schlesinger
-Ehrlichman
-Arms Control and Disarmament Agency [ACDA]
-Smith
-U. Alexis Johnson
-Chief negotiator
-Budget cuts
-Weinberger
-11-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Kissinger’s recommendations
-Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]
-Background checks
-Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson
-Harold M. Agnew
-Los Alamos laboratory
-[Unintelligible name]
-Edward Teller
-Agnew
-Offer of job
-Los Alamos laboratory
-Defense of administration
-Los Alamos laboratory
-John S. Foster, Jr.
-Management skill
-Atomic Energy Commission [AEC]
Rose Mary Woods
Haldeman left at 9:35 am.
New Year’s card from Mao Tse-Tung
-Chou En-Lai
-Photograph
-Publicity
New Year’s card from Leonid I. Brezhnev
Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Brezhnev's children
-Tricia Nixon Cox
-Edward R. F. Cox
Vietnam settlement
-Kissinger's meeting
-People’s Republic of China [PRC]
-Representatives
-The President's letter
-Response
-Authority
-12-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Henry M. (\"Scoop\") Jackson
-Kissinger’s note
-Bombing
-Negotiations
-The President’s silence
Kissinger's dinner at Ar Cote Basque
-Proprietor
-Admiration for the President
-Wine
-Response by patrons
-United Nations [UN]
-Support for the President
-New York City
-Basques
-Jews
Second term reorganization
-The President's dinner with Haig
-The President's meeting with Ziegler
-Loyalists
-Harry S. Dent
-Seeding of government
-Consultation with White House
-Haig
-Relationship with Kissinger
-Informant
-Responsibilities in Defense Department
-Vietnam settlement
-Memorandum
-Change of command
-Laird
-Bombing
-Adm. Thomas H. Moorer
-Richardson
-The President's meeting with Richardson
-Kissinger's presence
-Moorer
-William P. Clements, Jr.
-National Security Council [NSC] system
-13-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Intelligence system0
-Cuts
-Redundance
Laird
-Defense Program Review Committee
-Richardson
-Team player
-Leaks
Vietnam settlement
-Haig
-Trip to Puerto Rico
-Nelson A. Rockefeller
-Talk with New York Jews in Puerto Rico
-Support for bombing in Vietnam
-Compared to Congressional opinion
-Kissinger’s visit to Palm Springs
-Ted Hewitt [?]
-CBS's “60 Minutes”
-Hollywood
-Billy Wilder
-B-52s
-Support for the President
-Morale of staff
-Ziegler, Haldeman
-Ehrlichman, Shultz
-Congressional relations
-Public support for the President
-Possible breakdown of negotiations
-1972 election
-Trip to New York
-Nancy Maginnes
-William F. Buckley, Jr.
-Dinner
-Ar Cote Basque restaurant
-Patrons’ support for the President
-Morale of staff
-Haldeman, Colson, Ziegler
-Kissinger’s meeting with PRC representatives
-Instructions from Peking
-14-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Anatoliy F. Dobrynin
-Dealings with Vietnamese
-Letter to the President from Chou En-Lai
-Greetings
-Letter from the President to Chou En-Lai
-Tone
-Shanghai Communique
-Hegemony
-Potential trouble in Asia
-Indo-China
-US role
Second term reorganization
-Richardson
-Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs
-Richardson
-Jonathan Moore
-Haldeman’s role
-Helmet Sonnenfeldt
-Lawrence Eagleburger
-Jonathan Moore
-Liason with NSC
-Jonathan Moore
-Leaks
-Dove
-Position on Cambodia
-Compared to Richardson
-Sonnenfeldt
-Deputy
-Eagleburger
-Loyalty
-Sonnenfeldt
-Richardson
-Haldeman’s role
-Jonathan Moore
Vietnam settlement
-Negotiations
-Possible breakdown
-Bombing of North Vietnam
-15-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-South of 20th parallel
-Effect
-North Vietnamese
-Condition
-North Vietnamese perception
-Nuclear weapons
-Congressional relations
-Resolutions
-Effect
-Prospects
-North Vietnam
-Technical meeting
-Chinese statement
-Significance
Second term reorganization
The President's meeting with Richardson
-Chain of command
-Moorer
-Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS]
-Tactical air forces
-Clements
-Cuts
-Air power
-Surface to Air Missiles(SAMS)
-Airplanes
-Obsolescence
-B-1 bomber
-US Air Force
-Defense Department, Intelligence system
-Lack of progress
-Laird
-Chain of command
-Vietnam settlement
-South Vietnam
-Thailand
-Consolidation
Vietnam settlement
-Option 1 and Option 2
-16-
NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
Tape Subject Log
(rev. Feb-09)
Conversation No. 833-10 (cont’d)
-Quality
-Results of December bombing
-Thieu
-1973 Inauguration
-South Vietnamese Air Force
-Bombing of North Vietnam
-Halt
-Question of resumption
-North Vietnamese land moves
-South Vietnamese Air Force
-Strengths
-B-52 bombers
-Pause in bombing
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:35 am.
The President's schedule
Bull left at an unknown time before 10:02 am.
Negotiations
Kissinger left at 10:02 am.
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